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Bluedriver 01-19-2018 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk (Post 2506465)
I don’t know that I said it here, but I never would have thought spirit would have an agreement before us. I thought they had screwed the pooch, and mgmt would be willing turn their backs farther on them. Heck, maybe they did. Maybe the aip is good but not great because of it. Just outside looking in.

I do think we need to avoid a major mess like they had though. We need to continue to follow the mec and step correct in order to have the best negotiating position.

The big mess was pilots openly calling for a job action on public message boards. Yeah, don't do that.

And our union can't blatantly say "do a job action guys" either. But, they have said strict adherence to SOP and maybe reconsider doing more than your required job description. So far our guys have not reconsidered.... We even have line pilots helping the company recruit pilots to the lowest paid "major" airline and discouraging negative speech about JB!

We are a big group of Rocket Surgeons I tell ya!

PasserOGas 01-19-2018 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2506484)
The big mess was pilots openly calling for a job action on public message boards. Yeah, don't do that.

And our union can't blatantly say "do a job action guys" either. But, they have said strict adherence to SOP and maybe reconsider doing more than your required job description. So far our guys have not reconsidered.... We even have line pilots helping the company recruit pilots to the lowest paid "major" airline and discouraging negative speech about JB!

We are a big group of Rocket Surgeons I tell ya!

Read between the lines dumb$h!ts. No hope for this place.

rvr1800 01-19-2018 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2506517)
Read between the lines dumb$h!ts. No hope for this place.

There is no “between the lines” message. Your MEC has been clear. Fly SOP, if it’s broken write it up, and do your job and only your job.

PasserOGas 01-19-2018 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by rvr1800 (Post 2506524)
There is no “between the lines” message. Your MEC has been clear. Fly SOP, if it’s broken write it up, and do your job and only your job.

There is a reason SPA has an AIP and we don't. I will leave it there.

rvr1800 01-19-2018 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2506543)
There is a reason SPA has an AIP and we don't. I will leave it there.

A pretty underwhelming AIP. So that’s not a great argument.

PasserOGas 01-19-2018 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by rvr1800 (Post 2506618)
A pretty underwhelming AIP. So that’s not a great argument.

More than we make.

rvr1800 01-19-2018 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2506623)
More than we make.

Touché

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Southerner 01-19-2018 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by rvr1800 (Post 2506618)
A pretty underwhelming AIP. So that’s not a great argument.



What are the work rules like? The W2 matters more than the pay rate.


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captsurf 01-19-2018 12:27 PM

5:00 min DUTY period. Same as ours. However, they have a provision for layovers >24hrs credits another duty period.


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queue 01-19-2018 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2505288)
You are Bully and a coward! Man up!

Ahhh... poor baby. Do you need a safe space now?

Perhaps you should "man up" yourself, by firstly getting some expressions that aren't used by 16 year olds.


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