Again, for those of you with short memories...No self-respecting ALPA pilot should be asking for free rides from pilots who undercut our contracts.

 

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Who do you work for, Velocipede?

 

B6 will be unionized one day, but it wont be ALPA. Most here have a bitter taste from ALPA.

 

Very true. ALPA funded a meeting for B6 pilots, and only 14 out of 1800 showed up. All expenses paid, hotels, food, etc, and 14 showed up. It definately won't be ALPA. And, with all the pilot groups they've 'sold out' recently, who can blame B6 pilots?

 

Once again, it seems we have someone who can't differentiate between ALPA National and the mistakes made by LOCAL MECs.

Oh well...

I'm sure there's enough of that erroneous 'thinking' in the B6 pilot group that will guarantee any B6 Union will be an in-house affair. A few years of JBPA and perhaps they will see the wisdom of affiliating with a National Union, be it ALPA, the Teamsters or someone else.

Whatever way they eventually go, it will be a step in the right direction.

 

Hey Green Face... why are you even responding to this thread. You don't even have the balls to tell a pilot of a non union airline why you are denying him your jump seat to his face. You do a great job on this site but... it's like hiding behind your mother's skirt.

 

I believe the lawyers would call that "assuming a fact not in evidence." You make a lot of assumptions here, slick. Virtually all of them are wrong.

 

I don't follow your logic.

The JetBlue pilots have/are/continue to sell out every professional in who makes a living in the cockpit.

In doing so they forget all the sacrifices made by the union pilots who made the industry a desireable career.

Are you saying that because of some perceived wrong by ALPA that the JetBlue pilot group has a free pass to degrade work rules/conditions/pay rates/collective bargaining further?

 

OK so I tried to use a little humour to open your eyes. From the content of your response I observe that you are oblivious to what you are doing to the industry.

Every chip you take degrades the industry for the rest of us and ultimately yourselves. Understand: I am not talking about industry rivalries, competition, marketing, slots. I am talking about how every decision by your pilot group to allow mangement to lower the industry standard without opposition degrades what other pilot groups must deal with; even pilot groups which will never be in competition with JetBlue in any market.

I have often questioned myself: "What will it take for JetBlue pilots to stop the decisions made by management?"

Turning the pilot group into "contract labor"? No, they accpted it without a whimper.

Getting the pilot group to go to the FAA with the company for FAR Duty Limit relief? No, the pilot group gladly did this.

After being turned down for the FAR Duty Limits allowing the company to use the pilot group as unofficial lab rats to back door the FAA? No. Approx. 30 pilots participated in this dangerous attempt to sneak the cheese past the rat.

How about uniform policy? The pilot group doesn't even have backbone enough to change this. They allow themselves to be dressed like "Bozo the Clown" imitators.

There is an old saying: "If you are not with me, you're against me."

It is becoming more clear all the time.

Boys of B6, you are against me and my industry.