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Old 04-03-2018 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Specific details were not released from either side. However the company seems more willing to negotiate in public. The company also cherry picks snipits and drops letters to the group as if ALPA is holding up the show...

Our union leaders said the last offer wasn't worth the time to read it as has been stated above. So JMO, it was a waste of paper.
Ahh gotcha, swiper the fox.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Or make money betting you on TA completion dates
Still hopin for 2017 Payne? I guess there's still some juice left.
Bpf is lovin you. xx
Oh yes lots of it, anyway it was just a little joke bozo don’t get all mad, save your rage for our rsv rules.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 11:27 AM
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Speaking of RSV rules... why do they call out RSV guy before the RSA guy? IMO if youre volunteering... you should go to work first. I'd rather stay at the crashpad or home. I hate the FSM.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Oh yes lots of it, anyway it was just a little joke bozo don’t get all mad, save your rage for our rsv rules.
Enjoy the juice pp. No rage here
btw did you write that check?
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Old 04-04-2018 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Enjoy the juice pp. No rage here
btw did you write that check?
Have you started RSV life yet? The rage will come.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Speaking of RSV rules... why do they call out RSV guy before the RSA guy? IMO if youre volunteering... you should go to work first. I'd rather stay at the crashpad or home. I hate the FSM.
I haven't sat RSV for more than 5 years now but this used to infuriate me. . . Some dude gets time and a half for sitting at home while you get called out for the SDQ redeye.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 02:13 PM
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Let's be real... if people got called out on rsa they wouldn't pick it up anymore.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Enjoy the juice pp. No rage here
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The Check is in the mail

Actually I do need to send it I owe 200 for my optimism.


I do wonder if if if we got a contract this year would any of the APC guys that say 2020 or no time soon or whatever, would they ever say they were wrong?


It would be a nice problem to have
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Old 04-04-2018 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
The Check is in the mail

Actually I do need to send it I owe 200 for my optimism.


I do wonder if if if we got a contract this year would any of the APC guys that say 2020 or no time soon or whatever, would they ever say they were wrong?


It would be a nice problem to have
I'm optimistic that it'll be right after the fa vote and before summer but the company hasn't shown any sign that is what they are going to do. The ball is in their court. They know what we want and what it'll take to get a yes vote. It just depends on how hard they wanna dig their heels in and ruin this company
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Old 04-05-2018 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
I'm optimistic that it'll be right after the fa vote and before summer but the company hasn't shown any sign that is what they are going to do. The ball is in their court. They know what we want and what it'll take to get a yes vote. It just depends on how hard they wanna dig their heels in and ruin this company
I used to share that optimism. I no longer do. I believe the company is making purely business decisions regarding this pilot group. They’ve taken all emotion out of it therefore so have I. That’s not the company we were sold but that’s the company we work at now. I’ve maintained my core values of Safety and Integrity. Caring, Fun, and Passion are distant memories. Almost completely forgotten and maybe impossible to regain. The company has also given up on Caring, Fun, and Passion but I believe integrity as well. As demonstrated in a less than honest negotiations update regarding Alaska rates.

We as pilots have more invested in this company than anyone in management. Most of us will be here for our careers. Most of management will not. We must ensure we make the right decisions for our future and the future of the pilots to come after us. That means, at a minimum, a market rate contract. Alaska rates and work rules do not define the market. Far from it.

I trust our NC and MEC to fight for what we deserve but it may be a long hard road that will test this pilot group, the management team, and jetBlue as a company. We must do what is right for this industry and our careers.

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