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NK guy.
We were pretty much told by the union part of the reason we lost dropping reserve days was because of people refusing to pick up open time during the meltdown. The company showed the mediator historical versus current rates of daily open time transactions and pictures of reserve pilots who had checkerboarded their schedule. IMO our efforts to derail the operation did not improve our chat but made it worse, and the only reason we finally got our chat was because the company needed it to put in a new aircraft order. I did not pick up open time last may/June, I wore all the lanyards, but I think in hindsight we should definitely have avoided naming/shaming the chokers. |
Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 2552161)
NK guy.
We were pretty much told by the union part of the reason we lost dropping reserve days was because of people refusing to pick up open time during the meltdown. The company showed the mediator historical versus current rates of daily open time transactions and pictures of reserve pilots who had checkerboarded their schedule. IMO our efforts to derail the operation did not improve our chat but made it worse, and the only reason we finally got our chat was because the company needed it to put in a new aircraft order. I did not pick up open time last may/June, I wore all the lanyards, but I think in hindsight we should definitely have avoided naming/shaming the chokers. Before that effort a call over to the UAL MEC would have warned you about forum usage/creation and TROs :) At least the TRO is gone and you have a new contract (congrats btw) to build on in the future. JBLU guys.......hang in there - the FIRST union contract is always the hardest.....let the MEC speak for you and let the process work. |
Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 2552161)
NK guy.
We were pretty much told by the union part of the reason we lost dropping reserve days was because of people refusing to pick up open time during the meltdown. The company showed the mediator historical versus current rates of daily open time transactions and pictures of reserve pilots who had checkerboarded their schedule. IMO our efforts to derail the operation did not improve our chat but made it worse, and the only reason we finally got our chat was because the company needed it to put in a new aircraft order. I did not pick up open time last may/June, I wore all the lanyards, but I think in hindsight we should definitely have avoided naming/shaming the chokers. Chat = contract Thanks autocorrect |
Originally Posted by Shrek
(Post 2552714)
Or at the very least not put names on the web.
Before that effort a call over to the UAL MEC would have warned you about forum usage/creation and TROs :) At least the TRO is gone and you have a new contract (congrats btw) to build on in the future. JBLU guys.......hang in there - the FIRST union contract is always the hardest.....let the MEC speak for you and let the process work. And it better be perfect to JB pilots’ demands or it will be voted down. No compromises. No false arguments: - it’s our first contract - we may get nothing better - if we get this one through, we can improve it later on. - it’s much better than what we had before - it’s pretty good for a company this size And so on.... The market is at historic highs. If you don’t get it now, you might never. We are professionals demanding professional pay. This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations. |
Originally Posted by queue
(Post 2552950)
And it better be perfect to JB pilots’ demands or it will be voted down.
No compromises. No false arguments: - it’s our first contract - we may get nothing better - if we get this one through, we can improve it later on. - it’s much better than what we had before - it’s pretty good for a company this size And so on.... The market is at historic highs. If you don’t get it now, you might never. We are professionals demanding professional pay. This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations. All thrust and no vector come to mind..... |
Originally Posted by Shrek
(Post 2552957)
So your view of “perfect” is exactly the same as every other pilot at JetBlue? I never insinuated to settle for anything less than you deserve.........just to shine a light on the first contract on the property is a big one.
All thrust and no vector come to mind..... Nevertheless, many BJ pilots would settle for Robin’s imported endangered species leftovers. This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations. |
Understood......... hope the 50%+1 don’t fall for a substandard TA
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