Bluetruth

1. Solidarity? They voted in the Union during their very first election. Took you three times, and there was just a 5 percent difference in approval spread between FAs and Pilots.

2. its 35 a month and they don't have to start paying it until a contract is finished and signed. Think about that next time you send your check to ALPA.

3. They already have far more political support across both parties, publically, than we've seen in three years for you, a lot of it concentrated in B6 headquarters, New York, but also on the national level.

4. A necessary evil? gonna remember this one when they drop the F/O position down the road as aircraft get more and more automated. Lets see which comes first advanced auto-pilots or robotic stewardesses.

Gonna laugh when they get a contract signed first.

Bozo the pilot

You routin against?

PowderFinger

My comment was based on a 30+ year observation.

Will not be a concern for me but I do believe your #4 will come to pass.

queue

This and the 1.9%++ cost has always bothered me. It would be one thing to demand this much money if they delivered superior results but results just aren't there. Even though I'm an ALPA supporter, I'm only so because it's the best practical option at the moment. I still think ALPA needs to either charge 60% less or deliver 500% more. The ALPA apologists attack me on this but all members need to demand much, much more of ALPA. Case in point.. it takes YEARS to negotiate a contract that should take 5 days. They are drag-and-drop contracts that are very simple compared to others. ALPA has failed to institute political change to amend the RLA to disallow corporate filibustering. Get rid of the mediation process. Give the company a solid 30 days to agree to a finalized contract (e.g. 30 days of negotiation) or release pilots to strike on day 31.

Any examples of this? If they are doing something ALPA is not, its time to hold ALPA accountable for their underperformance.


From a technological standpoint, I don't think CAs or FOs should ever be removed from an airplane. It's impossible to engineer a foolproof aircraft that can negotiate every conceivable scenario. Any computer ultimately requires electricity and ultimately is subject to software mis-design. There's just no way around that. Yet, I don't see ALPA or Teamsters affecting pre-emptive political change to keep 2 pilots in the cockpit.

If they get a contract first, it's because they are easier to appease and they cost significantly less than a pilot. Remember this is a career for a pilot. An FA can move between any service industry jobs fairly easily. I know of one FA that got fired from BJ and now is an FA at Delta. Somehow I doubt it would be that easy for a pilot. That being said, pilots better not agree to a crappy contract. Strike is our only real power and it needs to be used often and without reservation.


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django

Q, are you intimate familiar with the provision of the RLA? It wouldn’t appear so based on your statements.

queue

Which one? My statements were regarding changing the RLA. That's the core failure. We need to redefine the rules of the game. Otherwise, the house always wins.




This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.

queue

By the way, you (everybody) should watch the PBS documentary What Lies Upstream. It's about water pollution but it shows the corrupt system of unelected bureaucrats that make the regulations that govern for federal agencies. Juxtapose this to the FAA. How much have we (ALPA) lobbied to get the RLA changed? There is one scene in that documentary where the stakeholders are all big corporations having a meeting with a government agency to regulate water. It starts at 50 minutes in.

https://www.njtvonline.org/programs/...stream-eb1e3w/

It sounds like what we need are a series of special interest groups of our own, each its own corporation, that show up to FAA meetings of all kinds to benefit pilots. The liberal left has tons of these organizations (e.g. Southern Poverty Law Center) which have their tentacles deep into media, social manipulation, the education system, entertainment, and especially government. After watching this, it makes you wonder who really wrote the RLA.

Let's further study this... look at what happened with the recent catastrophic engine failure over at Southwest Airlines. From ALPA:
Here's the article:

https://gizmodo.com/southwest-report...d-t-1825405710

Again, lobbying got a corporation what they want. Why are we (ALPA) not having the same level of effect as industry lobbyists?



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django

“It’s a conspiracy I tell you!”

hyperboy

Love your entertainment as stated at the bottom of your posts.

PowderFinger

That's how conspiracy works. Them boys on the grassy knoll, they were dead within three hours. Buried in the damn desert. Unmarked graves out past Terlingua.