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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
(Post 2587390)
The worst part for me....I screwed my family by coming here. Pay, (lack of) time off, and my misery at home that carries over from trips here (usually after flying with juicers helping out the flailing operation), has had negative impacts on my family life. If it was just me, that’d be one thing. But I have a wife and kids who now suffer from the inept and greedy management at this place.
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
(Post 2587390)
I wish culture put food on my table, but unfortunately I can’t even use culture as toilet paper. Oh, and culture doesn’t even exist here anymore, so discussing culture bucks is moot.
It's important that we define and understand the lexicon of modern corporate America, and for that matter, how movements like leftists redefine the language in order to exert thought control. Examples of such terms include the terms: CULTure, inclusive, diversity, progressive, etc. What you have in modern times is a collusion of political ideology with capitalistic mechanisms. Corporations have taken lessons from leftist ideologies (e.g. Google, Facebook, BJ). Companies look for specific personality types under the cloak of the term "diversity" when they really want like-minded people. Google has recently exemplified this as they fired a conservative who dissented from the Google "culture".
Naturally, they destroyed the guy. Their "diversity" program was merely to find like minded people or at least people who are gullible enough to believe anything they are told without using critical thought. Ever wonder why BJ sends out daily emails with links to articles that are pro-BJ but not truthful in the sense they leave out the negative stuff? It's all to give you a preponderance of evidence so that when you hear a granule of truth, the psychological phenomena of cognitive dissonance gives you reason to ignore it. If you control the information people consume, you can control "CULTure". The political left are experts at controlling information because they have their roots in Marxism, which is why they always silence free speech (e.g. conservative lawyers such as Ben Shapiro at UC Berkeley attacked by ANTIFA). Corporate "CULTure" is a parallel of this concept. Their aim is to control what you think. On to "CULTure"... culture is an assumed-positive term marketed by corporations as a benefit to employment. In reality, it means nothing except that the people who believe it are uncritical thinkers. Culture is a system of control. Please read the abstract to this research paper written by your favorite leftist authoritarians at Berkeley University: http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/cha...ialControl.pdf Here's the abstract: CULTURE AS SOCIAL CONTROL: CORPORATIONS, CULTS, AND COMMITMENT Charles A. O’Reilly and Jennifer A. Chatman The notion of “organizational culture” has attracted a broad base of scholarly interest. While many researchers study culture using an ethnographic approach, we examine it from a functional perspective, viewing culture within groups and organizations as a social control system based on shared norms and values. From a psychological perspective, we show how a shared normative order or culture can influence members’ focus of attention, shape interpretations of events, and guide attitudes and behavior. Specifically, we explore the psychological mechanisms used to develop social control systems and demonstrate how similar these approaches are across a variety of strong culture settings, ranging from conventional organizations to more extreme examples of cults and religious sects. ALPA needs to attack "culture". People need to wake up and understand that a corporation is nothing more than a legal entity entitled to earn a profit. We the People have given the privilege to the government to allow corporations to exist. A corporation cannot have human characteristics such as love or caring. It is merely a legal construct. Whenever a corporation presents itself as a "family", they are merely hijacking the term to brainwash the uncritical thinkers. The truth is that a corporation merely wants maximum authoritarian control over its workforce to extract the maximum profit possible. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...orporation.jpg This is a left-leaning documentary but the ideas are correct. (Fake) "culture" is an insult to professionals like us. If they want to extract maximum profit from their workforce, pay them as the professionals they are, and have contractual work rules they agree to. No one should believe BJ's failed propaganda of "culture pics of the week" and "blue heroes". This is for fools. Instead, look at the results:
http://www.quote-coyote.com/album/sm...s-Napoleon.jpg This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations. |
Originally Posted by jtrain609
(Post 2587370)
Did you grow up under power lines as a kid?
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Originally Posted by capt707
(Post 2587483)
I have the EXACT same feelings. Took the words right out of my mouth. You can add the frustration of what I call the "Alpa lanyard posers". They wear the lanyard but still do everyone elses job and try to go above and beyond. Pathetic!
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
(Post 2587718)
THIS. So many. Very discouraging. I hope we can strike so we can finally see all the would be scabs that work here.
Doing a stand-up PA or cleaning after non-revving is not the same as being a scab. Stop. You're both dividing the pilot group AND devaluing the meaning of the word "scab." |
Referencing RVR's ALPA link on page 11.
It seems that a contract will need to be 'industry leading' to be considered a 'success' relative to peer airlines. This would keep the pilots on par with these other airlines, whose current contracts are approaching their end. Which airlines are your peers. I know that you guys do at least as good a job as, for example, a Delta pilot. So is that your peer, and can the company's business model sustain that comparison. Having a reasonable expectation will make a new contract more acceptable. |
Originally Posted by Southerner
(Post 2587728)
I despise this attitude. You're essentially saying that unless someone feels the exact same way that you do, and behaves the exact same way that you do, they are scabs, which is pure crap.
Doing a stand-up PA or cleaning after non-revving is not the same as being a scab. Stop. You're both dividing the pilot group AND devaluing the meaning of the word "scab." |
Originally Posted by 654G
(Post 2587798)
Referencing RVR's ALPA link on page 11.
It seems that a contract will need to be 'industry leading' to be considered a 'success' relative to peer airlines. This would keep the pilots on par with these other airlines, whose current contracts are approaching their end. Which airlines are your peers. I know that you guys do at least as good a job as, for example, a Delta pilot. So is that your peer, and can the company's business model sustain that comparison. Having a reasonable expectation will make a new contract more acceptable. Pilots are in demand, and that fact is driving up the pay rates across the industry. It's generally a bad idea to speak on a public forum about what would get a yes vote. |
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
(Post 2587803)
I said wanna be scab. They havent crossed a picket line, but totally would. They would then proceed to jump through logical hoops explaining how this action was for the good of the pilot group, and how they vounteered for ALPA once so its OK.
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Originally Posted by Southerner
(Post 2587805)
Alaska/Virgin is our closest peer in many ways. Spirit/Frontier/Allegiant is below us in terms of business model and customer. Delta/AA/United is above us.
Pilots are in demand, and that fact is driving up the pay rates across the industry. It's generally a bad idea to speak on a public forum about what would get a yes vote. I challenge you to come up with one good reason a jetblue A320 pilot should make less than a delta A320 pilot, keeping the above in mind. When delta got their last contract, they didn’t say “oh let’s take UA/AA/SWA rates, find the average, and call it a day.” The mindset of the legacy pilots is reflected perfectly in UA’s snap up clause, which provided pay parity with whatever a competitor got in their negotiations. Meanwhile, we ask for average, because many of our weaklings are just happy to be here. Our management doesn’t want to hire good pilots...they want weak-minded culture pilots who like to work for less, hence our grocery bagger to FO gateway, and our light twin to FO gateway flow. Why are we asking for an average of the top 6 airline rates when we have the highest margins and ability to be paid the highest in the industry? Too many weak minds here who just don’t get it and don’t know their worth. That’s why. Mgmt thanks you to your face for sacrificing to work here, then laughs at you all the way to the bank. “Thank you, southerner, for rowing in the opposite direction of the pilot group, not showing unity with your fellow pilots by not wearing a lanyard or standing next to them on the picket line, being happy to make less money than your peers, and enabling us to make more money off of all your backs.” - sincerely, management. |
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