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Originally Posted by Bgood (Post 3516087)

There you go telling him what to do :D:D

I believe it’s called “man-splaining”.

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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast (Post 3515811)

See that's where you're wrong. There's no Far right ideology you speak of.

Really? Left wing ideology taken to the extreme, is called socialism, or if authoritarian in nature Leninist Communism. Far right ideology is called Theocracy, Plutocracy, or if authoritarian in nature, Fascism.

For examples of current leftist states you can look at Cuba, Venezuela, Norway, and Finland and Sweden.

For examples of conservative countries see Hungary, Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, and Russia.

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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer (Post 3516188)

Fascism is the merger of corporations and the state. You know like big tech, big pharma, and the MSM working in lockstep with the democrat party.

I’ve never seen anything more authoritarian in this country than Mask and Vax mandates, all done by democrats. And don’t forget a vax card to eat in a restaurant (but no ID to vote). That my friend, is exercising authority.

How long to hold a line in Jkf a320 for a new hire right now?

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Originally Posted by Cockpit997 (Post 3516191)

Your definition of fascism is incorrect. I often hear it from right wingers because they don't like to hear how close they are ideologically to historic fascists.

BMW, Mercedes,Lufthansa, Mitsubishi, and Fiat were all private companies inside fascist countries. No merger took place. What does constitute fascism looks a lot like one party and it ain't the dems.

Here is a checklist. See if you notice any similarities to what Fox News broadcasts.

The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

Um, no. It’s a figurative merger. The definition was changed to fit your newspeak narrative. And by the way, Nazi means German SOCIALIST workers party.

And I don’t watch Fox News.

What in tarnation is happening here? I think this is just the thing Irv was hoping to avoid 😅

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Originally Posted by Cockpit997 (Post 3516225)

Um, no. It’s a figurative merger. The definition was changed to fit your newspeak narrative. And by the way, Nazi means German SOCIALIST workers party.

And I don’t watch Fox News.

Oh its figurative. I see. So like the government was used to look after the interests of big business? Like crushing labor unions and stuff? Hmmm who does that sound like?

And yes socialist appears in the name of the Nazi party. That must be why the Nazi brown shirts first came to prominence battling leftists in the streets of Munich. Because they had soooo much in common with the Marxists. Lol. And wouldn't a merger of corporate power and the government be kind the OPPOSITE of socialism?

The Nazis put socialist in their name to make them seem more palatable for elections.They were socialist in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic.

The only place I ever hear that Fascists aren't a right wing ideology is from far right wing sources. Its pretty common knowlege, but it does kinda make Trumpists look bad.

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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer (Post 3516232)

Oh its figurative. I see. So like the government was used to look after the interests of big business? Like crushing labor unions and stuff? Hmmm who does that sound like?

—-I’ll use a term you’re comfortable with. It’s COLLUSION between government and corporations. We are all about to see how hostile this admin is toward labor. Everything and I mean everything is being propped up for the election. —-

And yes socialist appears in the name of the Nazi party. That must be why the Nazi brown shirts first came to prominence battling leftists in the streets of Berlin. Because they had soooo much in common with the Marxists. Lol. And wouldn't a merger of corporate power and the government be kind the OPPOSITE of socialism?

—-it was a far left takeover of the left like we have now. The merger always transitions from fascism to communism. Like China.—-

The Nazis put socialist in their name to make them seem more palatable for elections.They were socialist in the same way the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is democratic.

The only place I ever hear that Fascists aren't a right wing ideology is from far right wing sources. It’s pretty common knowlege, but it does kinda make Trumpists look bad.

—-of course, that’s on purpose. The MSM has been saying that the former game show host is an evil maniac, let’s face it he was a game show host. Its pretty weird for a fascist to deregulate, which he did—-

I appreciate the spirited debate. See above