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Old 10-20-2022 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
Your definition of fascism is incorrect. I often hear it from right wingers because they don't like to hear how close they are ideologically to historic fascists.

BMW, Mercedes,Lufthansa, Mitsubishi, and Fiat were all private companies inside fascist countries. No merger took place. What does constitute fascism looks a lot like one party and it ain't the dems.

Here is a checklist. See if you notice any similarities to what Fox News broadcasts.
  1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
  2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
  3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
  4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
  5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
  6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
  7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
  8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
  9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
  10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
  11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
  12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
  13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
  14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

It would be good form to at least credit Umberto Eco when you use his “practical list”
Old 10-20-2022 | 05:21 AM
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I want to redact my characterization of my old moderator as being “too reactionary on the left”. It was an unkind thing to say and based off a single conversation I had had with him during a difficult time. He put a lot of effort into helping me run the board and was excited about its possibility of further uniting the pilot group in a mature and level headed way.

The truth is that it’s hard to moderate and then not be labeled as being “against” one side or the other. I simply felt that too many voices in the moderation game would send a mixed message of what was ok and not ok. It’s tough enough on some people for just me doing it.

Again I apologize to my old moderator for my poor generalization of him on a public space. He is a good person with good intentions.
Old 10-20-2022 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by IrvW
I want to redact my characterization of my old moderator as being “too reactionary on the left”. It was an unkind thing to say and based off a single conversation I had had with him during a difficult time. He put a lot of effort into helping me run the board and was excited about its possibility of further uniting the pilot group in a mature and level headed way.

The truth is that it’s hard to moderate and then not be labeled as being “against” one side or the other.
If it helps, I can attest to this as well
Old 10-20-2022 | 07:30 AM
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The only thing we don’t like is when you guys over moderate. Let people have heated discussions and opinions. Don’t throw the flag until it’s necessary.
Old 10-20-2022 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
The only thing we don’t like is when you guys over moderate. Let people have heated discussions and opinions. Don’t throw the flag until it’s necessary.
The main section is just not a place for politics or other socially divisive topics. It was created to unite in our concerns and interests about our jetblue lives and aviation stuff.

Now I just move anything with politics stink on it to the “politics” section.
Old 10-20-2022 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
It would be good form to at least credit Umberto Eco when you use his “practical list”
Thanks. i thought it was clear that I didnt make up that list. There are others a quick google search will locate as this topic has been studied at length.
Old 10-20-2022 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
If it helps, I can attest to this as well
I agree, Rick!
Old 10-21-2022 | 04:13 AM
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Does anyone have any thought on airplane related stuff?


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Old 10-21-2022 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearswinger
Does anyone have any thought on airplane related stuff?


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Yes, in every other thread
Old 10-21-2022 | 08:17 AM
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Ironic that this thread getting de-railed actually proves Irvs point. Ha

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