Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 2622059)

The things you want added are not in any airline contract in existence.

Originally Posted by queue (Post 2622066)

Firstly, labor law is not a limiting factor. It doesn't stop us from negotiating better conditions of employment. Attorneys are not as useful as you may think or are led to believe. Where were our ALPA lawyers in allowing so many loopholes? Literally every page I read has huge loopholes if not just grossly unacceptable concessions (e.g. the company dealing with pilot medical issues). Lawyers tend to invite vagueness in contracts in order to keep themselves employed in fighting those very same loopholes. You have to make a lawyer work for you otherwise they are screwing you (e.g. if you sit in their office telling them your sob stories, they are only acting like they care because they started the clock the second you walked in - $$$$).

Secondly, getting to an ALPA MEC or NC position is purely a high school level popularity contest, exactly like politics. I don't play those kinds of games. If the BJ pilot group would vote for me, I would consider it, but that won't happen under ordinary circumstances. Too many pilots at BJ suffer from Stockholm Syndrome and they will object to me as Bozo does. He had to block me because I was so threatening to his fragile little brain.

Thirdly, ALPA would use their powers against me the second I threaten their monopoly and establishment. I would need legal protection from them. While I support ALPA, I don't support its current form. It's too expensive and doesn't deliver results, as evidenced by this garbage TA. I want it filled with killers with proven track records.

Soooo, put yourself out there and see? Killers had to initially establish their track records, no?

Won't go round and round here. You answered the initial question. The follow up is, will you do anything to effect change? Safe to say that a web board isn't the place to do so.



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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 2622059)

You understand literally everything you have complained about tonight is Industry standard.

Or


The things you want added are not in any airline contract in existence.


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Originally Posted by queue (Post 2622071)

Who cares if it's not in any contract in existence!!!!! What a dumb argument.


Anything is fair game. Don't be such a low-rent, low-expectation, low-standard company apologist. This is the very attitude that created the "race to the bottom" this industry suffers from. You are basically advocating that improvement should never happen.



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