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Originally Posted by seekingblue
(Post 2620936)
Agree. That will likely be what causes me to vote yes.
The insurance, payrates, etc Are sort of meh. Not great, not deal breakers. And it's this "It's good enough" mentality among our pilot group that will be the reason it passes, not because it should. |
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
(Post 2620953)
The vote passed 7-5. That in and of itself is telling.
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
(Post 2620973)
I知 confused by this. I thought it was sent to you guys with a vote of 12-0. What changed?
12-0 vote was to send NC back with company to finalize language and implementation schedule. 7-5 vote was overall TA final MEC vote. Underwhelming to say the least. This entire process is a JB management wet dream. |
Originally Posted by CAirBear
(Post 2620973)
I知 confused by this. I thought it was sent to you guys with a vote of 12-0. What changed?
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Originally Posted by jstyle13
(Post 2620984)
That was just a 3 page highlight of the AIP. The MEC voted 12-0 just to release that to the pilot group and then go thru the full TA vetting/vote process which concludes today.
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The TA is finally here
Originally Posted by dontsurf
(Post 2620915)
seems like this should have its own thread.
i have to say i'm underwhelmed by the reserve section. and the health insurance section. i really don't know what to think about the vacation stuff. is it a big improvement? Genuinely wondering what in the reserve section you didn稚 like? I thought that section was really really good. Especially when compared to everyone else. Maybe I missed something? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 2620986)
Genuinely wondering what in the reserve section you didn稚 like? I thought that section was really really good. Especially when compared to everyone else. Maybe I missed something?
i was really really hoping for something like united has, where (as i understand it, as was told to me in the past, and maybe isn't current), everyone is long call, until converted, and you can only be converted 8 days a month or something like that. this shows us having long call, but not everyone will have long call. i will have to wait to see examples of how it will play out, because i do not understand the percentages they are talking about vis a vis long call vs. short call. the 4 bid periods vs. 2 bid periods for daily reserve is a good thing. well, i am really saying that it is all an improvement. there is nothing in there that goes backwards. it is definitely better than what we have now, but i was really hoping for something extraordinary. |
The TA is finally here
Originally Posted by dontsurf
(Post 2621013)
i was hoping for even more days off (i had seen the 5 hour daily guarantee, and hoped the 75 hour reserve guarantee would mean 15 work days per month).
i was really really hoping for something like united has, where (as i understand it, as was told to me in the past, and maybe isn't current), everyone is long call, until converted, and you can only be converted 8 days a month or something like that. this shows us having long call, but not everyone will have long call. i will have to wait to see examples of how it will play out, because i do not understand the percentages they are talking about vis a vis long call vs. short call. the 4 bid periods vs. 2 bid periods for daily reserve is a good thing. well, i am really saying that it is all an improvement. there is nothing in there that goes backwards. it is definitely better than what we have now, but i was really hoping for something extraordinary. I値l have to look into UAL system but as far as days off it is better than UAL(12,13), American(12,13), spirit (12,13) Alaska 12, Hawaiian(12), dal is equal at (13,14) and SW blows everyone away at (14,15) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
here's a question that i'm sure someone can answer now.
yesterday someone (and he claimed to know what he was talking about, how he knows the guys in the mec, etc. so i believed him) told me that if we vote for this contract, the pay rates will be retroactive to when the aip was signed, which i see was may 11th. does anyone think this is true? i don't see anything about that anywhere in the highlights, or mentioned anywhere. they talk about "DOS", date of signing. does that mean when the aip was signed, or when a contract passes a vote of the pilots? |
Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
(Post 2621019)
I値l have to look into UAL system but as far as days off it is better than UAL(12,13), American(12,13), spirit (12,13) Alaska 12, Hawaiian(12), dal is equal at (13,14) and SW blows everyone away at (14,15)
again, it is all an improvement for reserves. i didn't say it was bad. i just said i was hoping for something extraordinary, and this isn't it. |
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