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Also for the dyslexic folks, there is now a video on scope.......

http://jbumec.alpa.org/Home/TA2018/tabid/11287/Default.aspx

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Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2622527)

From the FAQ on B6 Alpa:

Can JetBlue use an operator such as JetSuite to provide feed under a Capacity Purchase Agreement?
No, agreed upon language prevents the Company from doing this. The Company is prohibited from entering into any Capacity Purchase Agreements or purchase Block Space on other carriers, and they cannot not purchase equity in, or lend to, another company that is an air carrier or an affiliate of an air carrier as a means to circumvent the provisions of our Scope agreement. Other provisions in scope prohibit JetBlue for using an entity like JetSuites as an alter ego or for doublebreasting.

Can JetBlue operate a JetBlue Express / regional carrier?
JetBlue cannot enter into a Capacity Purchase Agreement with any other carrier. However, if JetBlue were to establish a new brand, i.e. JetBlue Express with regional jets, it would be flown by JetBlue Pilots under the same CBA and seniority list.

Seems fairly clear cut to me, no?

It says we can't Capacity Purchase Agreement with those Airlines. It does not say we can't codeshare with JetSuiteX, which we DO.

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2622581)

It says we can't Capacity Purchase Agreement with those Airlines. It does not say we can't codeshare with JetSuiteX, which we DO.

Not trying to be dick, but what's the difference? Honestly don't know.

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Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2622582)

Not trying to be dick, but what's the difference? Honestly don't know.

I know you aren't, I just did a more complete explanation in the other thread.

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Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2622537)

Also for the dyslexic folks, there is now a video on scope.......

http://jbumec.alpa.org/Home/TA2018/t...7/Default.aspx

Thanks for the help. I just finished the scope video. Good info.

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Originally Posted by somertime32 (Post 2622635)

Thanks for the help. I just finished the scope video. Good info.

Me too very good info. I agree with a lot of what he said. I just can’t believe we would code share with domestic carriers (Alaska etc) I get Hawaii but is there restrictions for conus?

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Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2622535)

How can we trust you? We don’t even know your name? What’s makes you so smart. Let me guess you know what is best for all of us and our families?

Let’s start with....what is your name?

My name won't change the fact that this scope is terrible.

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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer (Post 2622640)

Me too very good info. I agree with a lot of what he said. I just can’t believe we would code share with domestic carriers (Alaska etc) I get Hawaii but is there restrictions for conus?

The only real restriction is focus city to focus city. Other than that the company can code share and JV to its hearts content.

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Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2622651)

The only real restriction is focus city to focus city. Other than that the company can code share and JV to its hearts content.

Not so sure on the joint venture side of it. Code share I agree

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Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2622582)

Not trying to be dick, but what's the difference? Honestly don't know.

Capacity purchase agreement is what you would traditionally think of as regional feed. So, should we buy capacity on Republic to operate pairings we already operate. In our current scope, this traditional model for outsourcing cannot happen.

What CAN happen is we begin code sharing domestic routes we don't yet fly, but otherwise would. Should the company decide there are routes we fly that would be better served by a Skywest E-145 they could code share that route, buy seats and sell them to passengers, as long as they grow 3% that year and the flights are flown by "Skywest" and not "JetBlue Express".

It's a loophole big enough to fly a Hawaiian Airlines A321 through.