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Bozo the pilot 06-30-2018 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by zulu99 (Post 2625214)
Oh please Bozo. You’re a yes, this ta could have you scrubbing lavs and you’d be a yes. What happened?! You used to have a head on you, Cheif pilot prospects???

I always love hearing from the fans.
You're the reason we do this.

Love & Xs Zulu.
Bz

Bozo the pilot 06-30-2018 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2625111)
I'm under a PNDA.















"popcorner" NDA.

Well done BD. :D

Southerner 06-30-2018 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by zulu99 (Post 2625214)
Oh please Bozo. You’re a yes, this ta could have you scrubbing lavs and you’d be a yes. What happened?! You used to have a head on you, Cheif pilot prospects???

Chief pilot is probably one of the worst jobs at any airline. I'm not sure why so many people here think it's something magical that we should all aspire to.

Bluedriver 07-01-2018 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2625312)
Chief pilot is probably one of the worst jobs at any airline. I'm not sure why so many people here think it's something magical that we should all aspire to.

Um yeah, that's not what we think or mean. It takes a certain kind of person to WANT to be a chief, and that usually isn't good...

b82rez 07-01-2018 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 2624003)
The codeshares we have are on routes/equipment we don’t/can’t feasibly fly. BOS-ACK? Don’t care about that piston flying.

Jetblue flys BOS-ACK. On a E190. I'm not sure you know exactly what you're talking about.

queue 07-01-2018 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2625312)
Chief pilot is probably one of the worst jobs at any airline. I'm not sure why so many people here think it's something magical that we should all aspire to.

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BeatNavy 07-01-2018 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by b82rez (Post 2625452)
Jetblue flys BOS-ACK. On a E190. I'm not sure you know exactly what you're talking about.

Yeah, I’ve flown it. We do what 1 or 2 a day seasonally? We can’t feasibly do it with the frequency they do it. Flying 50 miles, burning 1000 lbs of jet a between taxi on both ends and ground time there with the APU on, plus whatever the flight burns, plus the cycles on the plane/motors, doesn’t exactly make for a great jet route. It’s extremely high CASM. Cape doing it on piston twins with a handful of people on each one is a lot better suited for it than we are on an E190. Our codeshare with them in that route isn’t exactly a threat to our growth, nor taking measurable business from jetblue pilots. I’ve said repeatedly codeshares on routes we can’t feasibly do ourselves or with equipment we don't have aren’t the problem. The problem is codesharing on routes we can feasibly do ourselves with equipment we have (a la Alaska/possibly Moxy), which this TA allows in basically unlimited fashion. Our west coast growth failure, with no plan right now, leaves ALK codeshares as a real possibility, eliminating our attempts to get slots/gate space/organic growth intra west coast. Please tell me what exactly you think I don’t know about this? I’m sure it’s plenty, but I’d like you to enlighten me.

DontCallMeCindy 07-02-2018 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 2625887)
Yeah, I’ve flown it. We do what 1 or 2 a day seasonally? We can’t feasibly do it with the frequency they do it. Flying 50 miles, burning 1000 lbs of jet a between taxi on both ends and ground time there with the APU on, plus whatever the flight burns, plus the cycles on the plane/motors, doesn’t exactly make for a great jet route. It’s extremely high CASM. Cape doing it on piston twins with a handful of people on each one is a lot better suited for it than we are on an E190. Our codeshare with them in that route isn’t exactly a threat to our growth, nor taking measurable business from jetblue pilots. I’ve said repeatedly codeshares on routes we can’t feasibly do ourselves or with equipment we don't have aren’t the problem. The problem is codesharing on routes we can feasibly do ourselves with equipment we have (a la Alaska/possibly Moxy), which this TA allows in basically unlimited fashion. Our west coast growth failure, with no plan right now, leaves ALK codeshares as a real possibility, eliminating our attempts to get slots/gate space/organic growth intra west coast. Please tell me what exactly you think I don’t know about this? I’m sure it’s plenty, but I’d like you to enlighten me.

Here’s some enlightenment: we currently have zero protections against any and all codesharing, against any alter-egos, etc., and we’re rapidly nearing the end of one of the longest bull markets in the entire history of the USA.

BeatNavy 07-02-2018 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by DontCallMeCindy (Post 2625939)
Here’s some enlightenment: we currently have zero protections against any and all codesharing, against any alter-egos, etc., and we’re rapidly nearing the end of one of the longest bull markets in the entire history of the USA.

Ok Cindy so we need to take the first offer we are given because of fear? No thanks. TAs are supposed to be voted on based on their value and merits, not on fear. Fear is an emotion. Don’t vote on emotion. Really wish people would stop being so afraid of the bogeyman when voting on something that affects my family.

If you think the bull market will flip and is gonna tank in the time it takes us to fix this thing, go buy a ton of VXX and short the market. But don’t take me down with you because you are afraid.

Please enlighten me more.

Southerner 07-02-2018 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 2625956)
Ok Cindy so we need to take the first offer we are given because of fear? No thanks. TAs are supposed to be voted on based on their value and merits, not on fear. Fear is an emotion. Don’t vote on emotion. Really wish people would stop being so afraid of the bogeyman when voting on something that affects my family.

If you think the bull market will flip and is gonna tank in the time it takes us to fix this thing, go buy a ton of VXX and short the market. But don’t take me down with you because you are afraid.

Please enlighten me more.

That's not fear. It's being rational. The TA is a good deal. It isn't great, but it's solid, and gets us on the map. If the economy turns, we will be lucky to have this deal.


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