There are a few facts sprinkled in with the ad hominem.

Let’s review some facts you construe as ad-hominem:
1) union asked us to wear lanyards as a show of unity
2) F&H union busters tally our lanyards to judge unity
3) you refuse to do this simple task
4) People bring it up to you and you throw a fit for bringing up facts that you don’t like.

Now. Want to move on and debate facts of this TA? Like E195-E2, a 124-128 seat plane, paying $50 less than the smaller CS100 on DALs rates? Or the fact that our CS100 rates are $40 less than DAL’s? Or that our PS cliff makes our PS almost worthless? Or that our cola is sub par? Or that our 321 and/or blended rate is below everyone else’s in our peer group to start, and continues to fall further behind? Or our already bad medical changed by $300 a year seed money?

No emotion. Just facts. Facts you don’t like to acknowledge.

We can talk about the happy facts too, but my point has been to ask if the shortfalls are worth holding out for. Check your emotion at the door. I know you get emotional when people ask for your support to stand with the rest of us and show unity with a lanyard, or when people bring up negatives about the TA, or when queue posts. No need for it.

I never threw a fit. I'm talking about your other posts. I don't give a crap what you think about me wearing a lanyard or not. That's not what we are here to discuss. You want to focus on that, because you use it as a straw man technique. You really should study up on logical fallacies...

I'm not emotional. Perhaps you should look in the mirror...

Crickets on the rest of my post discussing the TA? Of course.

1. Yep E190 pay didn't go up much. Are you willing to trade other things to get that pay up? Like it or not, the industry pays based on aircraft type, and that specific type is already the highest E190 pay in the industry. To fix that would be awesome, but it would likely cost us in other areas. I'm an E190 guy, so sure, wouldn't it be cool to have more? Yep. But I'd rather the larger fleet get more, and improve in other areas too.

2. CS rates could improve, yes. But they are middle of the road, and not terrible. At least they are doing a blended rate for the non-flight hours versus paying CS100 for all with an override if you fly a CS300. That's what I was expecting.

3. I don't GAS about profit sharing. I would rather give it up entirely for higher guaranteed rates. It is codified now in the CBA, so it cannot be changed. Again, middle of the road. Not great, or terrible.

4. I wish the COLA were 1% more. If we vote this down, we will never regain the loss in money over that timeframe. This is a simple cost/benefit analysis here. That's not enough for my no vote.

5. Medical benefits aren't a driving factor for me, so that doesn't drive my personal vote yes or no.

All of the above are meh/middle of the road for me. (And we are discussing my vote here, so that's the lens we should look at this through.)

Now we can discuss the stuff that is a dramatic improvement.

1. Reserve is better, with long-call provisions guaranteeing use of it.
2. Pairing construction is far improved.
3. Scope is far better.
4. Instructor provisions are far better. (Way better)
5. This will codify our CBA and give us a place to improve from in 3.5 years.

So for me, it's a meh/cost of voting no to improve the pay sections won't be outweighed by the gains versus the improvements in the other areas. That equals a solid yes. The risk of downturn simply makes that calculation more confirmed for me.



So all that said, I hold no ill-will towards those who vote no. Their calculus is different. Good for them.

Back on topic.....

Anyone remember Reno Air? Moxy is the new Reno Air.

We've all been told that LGB isn't profitable. If the TA passes, what is to stop JB from closing LGB and giving all slots to Moxy? We transfer all assets back east and give the west away, albeit growing by 1 pilot per year?

GP

Does that benefit B6 more than flying the routes themselves? Not really.
But Yes, its possible for them to do it.
Will they do it? Who knows.
You limit what you think they will do, not everything that they can do.

I was completely wrong. We DO have a west coast plan finally. Big announcement today 7-2-2018 regarding SFO!

Care to share with the class?

It was in a Jet-to-the-point today from M. Elliot.