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Old 07-04-2018 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cmdrls
What exactly is the problem with our current ELT? It seems as if they bargained in good faith to achieve an agreement that is generous to the pilot group all while maintaining the ability to grow the airline so more people can have the opportunity to enjoy the jetBlue experience. OTP seems to be catching on, and we are seeing marked improvements in our performance as of late. I will concede to you that our performance improvments might have something to do with more favorable treatment from ATC, but again that is most likely due to the ELT’s decision to put stickers on the side of some of our planes that called our customers into action.
You think OTP is working? You really think that boarding 5 minutes earlier while pushing a 300 million per year cost savings program mainly paid for by removing operational support is IMPROVING our on time performance? We can run an on time airline by not catering and shutting the door whenever we want and leaving people behind so we can push on time. That won’t make us money.

You really think those stickers helped? I spoke with the BOS tower. I’ll just say those stickers didn’t make them happy and they are on board with SOP.
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Old 07-04-2018 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cmdrls
What exactly is the problem with our current ELT? It seems as if they bargained in good faith to achieve an agreement that is generous to the pilot group all while maintaining the ability to grow the airline so more people can have the opportunity to enjoy the jetBlue experience. OTP seems to be catching on, and we are seeing marked improvements in our performance as of late. I will concede to you that our performance improvments might have something to do with more favorable treatment from ATC, but again that is most likely due to the ELT’s decision to put stickers on the side of some of our planes that called our customers into action.

Wow.... you must be a VP or something.



  • Bargained in good faith? Ha... the TA is horrible and it took 3+ yrs. Is it good faith to fillabuster for years and to pay employees below market rate for so long while filling them with culture BS? Do you really think we are that dumb?
  • So more can enjoy the JB experience? Yeah I guess you missed where your heroic middle managers were paying passengers to rat out FA's on surveys. I guess you've missed all those pilots on progressive guidance and that have been suspended.
  • OTP catching on? Ha! They haven't even made an attempt to fix the root causes of the problems. All they are doing is coercing line workers to make them jump higher while screwing over passengers and making employees hate BJ. That can only go on for so long. If these inept 2.5 GPA MBAs wanted to sabotage this company, they are succeeding.
    • Try sitting at JFK or BOS without doing someone else's job. See how long it takes you to get catered, to get fueled, to clear out maintenance issues, etc.
  • The stickers on the side of the airplane do nothing to convince anyone. Even if it offends people, it hasn't caused harm, but it especially hasn't helped in any way. It was all P.R. for the investor's meetings where BJ management blamed their ineptitude on ATC.
No one believes all the "culture" brainwashing/propaganda. If you do, you are a fool.



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Old 07-04-2018 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk
You think OTP is working? You really think that boarding 5 minutes earlier while pushing a 300 million per year cost savings program mainly paid for by removing operational support is IMPROVING our on time performance? We can run an on time airline by not catering and shutting the door whenever we want and leaving people behind so we can push on time. That won’t make us money.

You really think those stickers helped? I spoke with the BOS tower. I’ll just say those stickers didn’t make them happy and they are on board with SOP.
He is trolling. Check your sarcasm detector.
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Old 07-05-2018 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by queue
Wow.... you must be a VP or something.



  • Bargained in good faith? Ha... the TA is horrible and it took 3+ yrs. Is it good faith to fillabuster for years and to pay employees below market rate for so long while filling them with culture BS? Do you really think we are that dumb?
  • So more can enjoy the JB experience? Yeah I guess you missed where your heroic middle managers were paying passengers to rat out FA's on surveys. I guess you've missed all those pilots on progressive guidance and that have been suspended.
  • OTP catching on? Ha! They haven't even made an attempt to fix the root causes of the problems. All they are doing is coercing line workers to make them jump higher while screwing over passengers and making employees hate BJ. That can only go on for so long. If these inept 2.5 GPA MBAs wanted to sabotage this company, they are succeeding.
    • Try sitting at JFK or BOS without doing someone else's job. See how long it takes you to get catered, to get fueled, to clear out maintenance issues, etc.
  • The stickers on the side of the airplane do nothing to convince anyone. Even if it offends people, it hasn't caused harm, but it especially hasn't helped in any way. It was all P.R. for the investor's meetings where BJ management blamed their ineptitude on ATC.
No one believes all the "culture" brainwashing/propaganda. If you do, you are a fool.



This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
I honestly don’t think it is possible for me to lay on the sarcasm/trolling any thicker than I have. Maybe boeingnotgoing can (he is clearly much better at this than I am) but sadly, I am not capable of making it any more obvious. Maybe one day!

Happy Jetting.
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Old 07-05-2018 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Cmdrls
I honestly don’t think it is possible for me to lay on the sarcasm/trolling any thicker than I have. Maybe boeingnotgoing can (he is clearly much better at this than I am) but sadly, I am not capable of making it any more obvious. Maybe one day!

Happy Jetting.
Well done- Most of us got it.
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Old 07-05-2018 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
No, didnt you hear? Its Moxy that'll take ALL of our flying, even though it wont exist for at least 2 years.
And the Yes leaners are the ones acting in fear?!
gmafb.
That argument has not been made by anyone. You guys are choosing not to hear that actual likely scenarios with Alaska and Moxy. Exaggerating and changing the key points simply make you look as if you are unable to comprehend the possible scenarios.
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Old 07-05-2018 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
That argument has not been made by anyone. You guys are choosing not to hear that actual likely scenarios with Alaska and Moxy. Exaggerating and changing the key points simply make you look as if you are unable to comprehend the possible scenarios.
Now you're the exaggeration police?
Who's after you?
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