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rvr1800 07-07-2018 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2629218)
I know, and they were just about to hire Skywest! We have soo many extra slots and gates in our hubs, might as well have someone use all these unused resources.

And, our caterers have nothing to do most of the time...

Easy fix for that. Don’t replace the 190. Retire it and replace with 175’s.

nuball5 07-07-2018 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by rvr1800 (Post 2629416)
Easy fix for that. Don’t replace the 190. Retire it and replace with 175’s.

Or half 190 on Jetblue, half Skywest -175s.

Cmdrls 07-07-2018 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by queue (Post 2629033)
I voted NO because it is the most responsible thing to do. No one is putting a gun to our head to sign right now. We can vote this thing down, fix the language, then vote Yes. I care about my fellow pilots and this profession. I'm not going to be fear-mongered into voting for sub-standard contracts just because of speculation or some emotional decision. This is a business deal and I'll only sign on to a good deal. This isn't. Something worth doing, is worth doing well. I don't like to half-a$$ things and I could not in good conscious, and due diligence, accept this substandard TA. Remember it took 3 tries to get ALPA here. Is it possible that accepting the first offer could be a bad decision?



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I’m shocked, didn’t see that one coming!

Mattio 07-07-2018 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 2629060)
Or these bag tags I ordered.

People might think you voted No to the union (not the TA), it doesn't specify, at least in the image you shared... thought I'd try to save you the headache...

BunkerF16 07-07-2018 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by Mattio (Post 2629426)
People might think you voted No to the union (not the TA), it doesn't specify, at least in the image you shared... thought I'd try to save you the headache...


A discussion starter at the least. Hopefully with me wearing my P2P lanyard and buttons from all 3 events I helped with that would be a little more obvious what I was talking about. But your post is appreciated--I hadn't thought about that angle.

queue 07-07-2018 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Mattio (Post 2629426)
People might think you voted No to the union (not the TA), it doesn't specify, at least in the image you shared... thought I'd try to save you the headache...



https://i.imgur.com/BLaTY5c.jpg


Wear it with pride. Made in the USA.

Support ALPA and the betterment of your status as a professional pilot. Inform yourself. Knowledge is power. Otherwise you are sabotaging your own future like all the defeatists and apologists who want any contract, no matter how bad it is.



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Bluedriver 07-07-2018 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by rvr1800 (Post 2629416)
Easy fix for that. Don’t replace the 190. Retire it and replace with 175’s.

I know! They were just about to do it! We foiled them, and their line of pilots chomping at those low wage jobs. No way that plan could have backfired.

And trading out larger aircraft for smaller ones in this airline environment is wicked smart, all the other airlines are doing it! It's the new trend, small-gauging... We saved them from themselves.

rvr1800 07-07-2018 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2629450)
I know! They were just about to do it! We foiled them, and their line of pilots chomping at those low wage jobs. No way that plan could have backfired. We saved them from themselves.

That’s a great argument you make. You or I have no idea what their plan was or is. Skywest would have no issue staffing that flying. It’s what is possible under the PEA and what won’t be if the TA passes.

pilotpayne 07-07-2018 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2629450)
I know! They were just about to do it! We foiled them, and their line of pilots chomping at those low wage jobs. No way that plan could have backfired.

And trading out larger aircraft for smaller ones in this airline environment is wicked smart, all the other airlines are doing it! It's the new trend, small-gauging... We saved them from themselves.


Yes and we were never ever going to buy another airline or anything. Oh wait.

pilotpayne 07-07-2018 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 2629436)
A discussion starter at the least. Hopefully with me wearing my P2P lanyard and buttons from all 3 events I helped with that would be a little more obvious what I was talking about. But your post is appreciated--I hadn't thought about that angle.

Or an open invitation to an argument:)


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