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BunkerF16 07-07-2018 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2629469)
Or an open invitation to an argument:)


I'm not opposed to those. I find the discussions much more civil, even with those who disagree, in person as opposed to on these boards.


Even I'm not that big of a d1ck in real life. ;)

Bozo the pilot 07-07-2018 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by BunkerF16 (Post 2629511)
I'm not opposed to those. I find the discussions much more civil, even with those who disagree, in person as opposed to on these boards.


Even I'm not that big of a d1ck in real life. ;)

Problem is most guys on here wouldnt have the ball$ to even have a phone conversation let alone meet up for a face to face.
Not you necessarily, but many on APC.

Bluedriver 07-07-2018 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2629461)
Yes and we were never ever going to buy another airline or anything. Oh wait.

You quoted a post, but that post didn't say they were never going to do it.

seekingblue 07-07-2018 09:34 AM

I posted this comment on JBLU pilots and I think it warrants a repost here.

Vote. Don’t care if you are for or against, be sure to take the extra 2 mins out of your day and vote for what you want. I’ve been open, honest and transparent that I’m a yes voter, but that shouldn’t matter. This vote is going to be 70/30 or 60/40 so anyone who chooses not to vote could really swing the election one way or another.

Talk to your family. Read the union Q&A. Go to a roadshow. Read the TA sections that matter most. Then vote.

pilotpayne 07-07-2018 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2629569)
You quoted a post, but that post didn't say they were never going to do it.

Oh I’m sorry you just heavily and sarcastically implied they wouldn’t, my mistake.


Again is scope the reason to vote, maybe but let’s agree that the company sure can change its mind. Maybe they don’t care about RJs now but when you and I got hired all they ever said was organic growth until we tried to buy Virgin. RH is no DB not in a good or bad way but we can’t sit here and “imply” (is that better) that they won’t get a regional one day. You could make the brand argument as I always did but obviously they don’t care about it these days.

capt707 07-07-2018 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2629581)
I posted this comment on JBLU pilots and I think it warrants a repost here.

Vote. Don’t care if you are for or against, be sure to take the extra 2 mins out of your day and vote for what you want. .

^^^^ Agreed. Always amazes me when results come out and it shows only 85-90% participation. How the F can you not take a minute to vote on something that affects your QOL.

queue 07-07-2018 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2629594)
Oh I’m sorry you just heavily and sarcastically implied they wouldn’t, my mistake.


Again is scope the reason to vote, maybe but let’s agree that the company sure can change its mind. Maybe they don’t care about RJs now but when you and I got hired all they ever said was organic growth until we tried to buy Virgin. RH is no DB not in a good or bad way but we can’t sit here and “imply” (is that better) that they won’t get a regional one day. You could make the brand argument as I always did but obviously they don’t care about it these days.


Makes you wonder if they were actually going to buy them or if they wanted a competitor to acquire a debt laden airline.... sometimes creating the threat of something compels others into action.


Kinda like how the mere existence of a TA, no matter how bad it is, makes people feel like they need to accept it.



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BunkerF16 07-07-2018 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 2629565)
Problem is most guys on here wouldnt have the ball$ to even have a phone conversation let alone meet up for a face to face.
Not you necessarily, but many on APC.


Yep. A lot of internet tough guys out there.

Softpayman 07-07-2018 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2629450)
I know! They were just about to do it! We foiled them, and their line of pilots chomping at those low wage jobs. No way that plan could have backfired.

And trading out larger aircraft for smaller ones in this airline environment is wicked smart, all the other airlines are doing it! It's the new trend, small-gauging... We saved them from themselves.

Let this set in folks. This is how little we’ve learned in the past 20 years. Literally doesn’t think the company would pull the trigger on RJs. Your job could be gone but hey, at least you had a good rest of the contract outside of scope!

Bluedriver 07-07-2018 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 2629606)
Let this set in folks. This is how little we’ve learned in the past 20 years. Literally doesn’t think the company would pull the trigger on RJs. Your job could be gone but hey, at least you had a good rest of the contract outside of scope!

Rocket Surgeon, where did I EVER say give up RJ scope in a CBA? Like EVER?


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