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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
(Post 2632268)
This is a 6-8 year contract. Watch.
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2632187)
Not sure about more than everyone. But yes. We are adding hulls. 85 more 321s by 2024 or 2025... I don’t remember.
And if we exercise the 60 options in a few years on the 220 that’s 60 more. Subtract a few old busses, it’s still growth. We’ve been growing slowly but surely for about 7years. Like slowly as in stagnation type? :) |
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
(Post 2632252)
Or it could be that Jetblue has worse work rules and pay than our peers. You act like they bought wide bodies or something. It's a narrow body. A smaller narrow body that we have bargain basement rates on. I don't understand why anyone would be excited about this.
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
(Post 2632272)
You didnt bother to comprehend Todd's example did you?
Its not about anyone getting excited, its the pivot from the angry NO voter to yet another theory of how we're getting screwed. So I guess the 320s are being replaced by the 220s now. Whats next when after theory doesnt pan out? Lets hear all the doomsday scenarios. |
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2632298)
Dude respectfully if you can’t be happy about us getting a much better airplane vs going cheap with the E2. I don’t even know. For once the company seems to be thinking long term and that’s good for us. After reading all of your posts I don’t think you are going to be happy here long term. That’s not if you don’t like it leave but if you can’t even think this decision is good well it’s going to be a rough career sorry job here.
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
(Post 2632258)
Many people like to complain about anything and everything. Someone earlier in this thread said it best. The normal posters here promised everyone that JB would get the E2 because it was cheapest option, and now that the company actually did exactly what so many here wanted, they're complaining about something else.
I'm actually very excited about this announcement and hope it helps the growth of our company. Also, we'll be into negotiating our 2nd contract by the time enough of these things hit property. Not everyone thought it would be the E2. Look I’m just happy that I will be able to walk into the flight deck not fold myself into the seat like the 190. It does seem to be the perfect plane for us. |
Originally Posted by hyperboy
(Post 2632141)
Yes you are so much better and smarter than us....the pilot group. Forget about the surveys and what you pilots want as a majority. It's your call. You also have a crystal ball?... because you know everything.
We got real lucky when you got hired here, huh?!. To think you could have went anywhere and you came here?......our fault too? Not saying vote NO, but there was a lot of crud-sandwich that wasn't exactly "cleared" with the pilot group via polling. |
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2632304)
Not everyone thought it would be the E2.
Look I’m just happy that I will be able to walk into the flight deck not fold myself into the seat like the 190. It does seem to be the perfect plane for us. Do people in Brazil not have backs? Or butts? |
Lots of accusations flying, my position has always been, if JB doesn't announce fleet review *before* vote closes it's E2 and the C rates were a ruse. Said it, about a billion times. Well, they announced fleet review before vote closes, so it's option B, as allowed for in my prediction.
Choosing the A220-300 to replace the E180 was literally the best possible decision JB could make and is the first great decision with long term vision I have seen here in a long time. And this requires significant investment from the company and will, eventually, put 25% of our pilot group into much better paying positions and give our pilots more "good" seats to bid into. I am giving credit where credit is due on this one, as I did on page one of this thread. It doesn't fix a multitude of other issues here and it doesn't fix most of the deficiencies of the TA, and no the -300 rates aren't exactly industry leading for the type, but the career of many of our JB seniority list just got much better or less bleak, depending on how you view this place. BD |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2632123)
American never offered the 145 to the AA pilots. Pure fiction.
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