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PDTFlyer 08-01-2018 09:18 AM

Scoring The Interview
 
Hello JB Crew, for those that got hired recently, did you use an interview or resume prep company to stand out and if so which one? Trying to make myself as marketable as possible for B6. Thanks!! Any tips or advice is appreciated.

FedUpPayMe 08-01-2018 09:27 AM

There must be something that B6 is looking for. I can't quite place what it is, though. My buddy has lived in NYC for all this life, and he was hired with 0 TPIC, CRJ type rating, Hispanic (miniority), less than 4000 hours total time. He was lucky in that he had zero LORs and was spared the hassle of going to a job fair. The People's Department must like this type of background.

PasserOGas 08-01-2018 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by FedUpPayMe (Post 2646690)
There must be something that B6 is looking for. I can't quite place what it is, though. My buddy has lived in NYC for all this life, and he was hired with 0 TPIC, CRJ type rating, Hispanic (miniority), less than 4000 hours total time. He was lucky in that he had zero LORs and was spared the hassle of going to a job fair. The People's Department must like this type of background.

If he had thin, finely man-scaped facial hair he was the holy trinity to HR here.

Bluedriver 08-01-2018 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by FedUpPayMe (Post 2646690)
There must be something that B6 is looking for. I can't quite place what it is, though. My buddy has lived in NYC for all this life, and he was hired with 0 TPIC, CRJ type rating, Hispanic (miniority), less than 4000 hours total time. He was lucky in that he had zero LORs and was spared the hassle of going to a job fair. The People's Department must like this type of background.

Oh man, I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but you literally just answered your own question. Definitively.

FedUpPayMe 08-01-2018 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2646692)
If he had thin, finely man-scaped facial hair he was the holy trinity to HR here.

Haha. Yeah, they also hired four of his buddies for the same class who were also NYC-dwelling, Hispanic low total time regional FOs, so the pattern didn't strike me exactly as coincidental. Just a hunch, but someone who is an average white male coming from the regionals will probably have to jump through a few hoops like job fairs, LORs, flight credentails, extracurricular activism, and union work to go to JetBlue especially now with your new contract.

Bluedriver 08-01-2018 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by FedUpPayMe (Post 2646709)
Haha. Yeah, they also hired four of his buddies for the same class who were also NYC-dwelling, Hispanic low total time regional FOs, so the pattern didn't strike me exactly as coincidental. Just a hunch, but someone who is an average white male coming from the regionals will probably have to jump through a few hoops like job fairs, LORs, flight credentails, extracurricular activism, and union work to go to JetBlue especially now with your new contract.

Can't tell if you are actually interested, but if you are have you PMd Hyperboy?

PDTFlyer 08-01-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2646692)
If he had thin, finely man-scaped facial hair he was the holy trinity to HR here.

Perfect I have time to grow and create that lol.

nuball5 08-01-2018 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by PDTFlyer (Post 2646719)
Perfect I have time to grow and create that lol.

I guess no one wants to answer your question. I used Emerald Coast a few years ago. It did a decent job preparing me for the interview. I think that's what most people use for prep.

FedUpPayMe 08-01-2018 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2646718)
Can't tell if you are actually interested, but if you are have you PMd Hyperboy?

Yes certainly, I am interested in working for JetBlue as a Florida-based pilot. So I wish good luck to all. And no I haven't PMed anyone.

PDTFlyer 08-01-2018 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 2646729)
I guess no one wants to answer your question. I used Emerald Coast a few years ago. It did a decent job preparing me for the interview. I think that's what most people use for prep.

Thank you! Will get that started!

Bluedriver 08-01-2018 10:26 AM

PM Hyperboy. I personally didn't use an interview prep company, but I'm sure it's helpful. You first need to actually score an interview.

Make sure you update your times regularly, they like to see you actively updating times because it shows more interest in the company.

Whether you do an interview prep or not, have a good answer to the question "why JetBlue". They will ask it at the interview, probably more than once. They will also likely ask that question when they call you to consider you for an interview, so have a good answer ready.

Also, put your previous house-cleaning experience on the application. It helps with our "all crew members are expected to clean while commuting/non-revenue" policy.

Good luck.

BeatNavy 08-01-2018 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by PDTFlyer (Post 2646737)
Thank you! Will get that started!

I did EC after I had started at JB when I was going to go elsewhere but ended up never using my $400 of interview prep. My experience is that there’s enough gouge online for free, and had I done EC before my JB interview it wouldn’t have helped. I recommend to my friends coming here to learn about the company (financial statements and Wikipedia), read the willflyforfood profiles to get some gouge, use the SAR format when answering questions, and be yourself. Maybe just look up generic interview advice. It’s not rocket science. If you show you are prepared and knowledgeable about the company and are a good guy, the job is yours to lose.

Be honest, be positive, and relax. If you don’t think you are a good interviewer or want to maximize your opportunity, then do EC or one of those. But I don’t think it’s necessary. Good luck.

Rabid Seagull 08-01-2018 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by FedUpPayMe (Post 2646690)
There must be something that B6 is looking for. I can't quite place what it is, though. My buddy has lived in NYC for all this life, and he was hired with 0 TPIC, CRJ type rating, Hispanic (miniority), less than 4000 hours total time. He was lucky in that he had zero LORs and was spared the hassle of going to a job fair. The People's Department must like this type of background.

I like the bit, "Hispanic (miniority)". Maybe you haven't been called because you put "White (majority)" on your app?


p.s. your buddy probably spelled "minority" correctly.

bh5311 08-01-2018 10:55 AM

So if I can pass as hispanic but I'm 99% european should I just put hispanic on my app?

todd1200 08-01-2018 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by FedUpPayMe (Post 2646709)
Haha. Yeah, they also hired four of his buddies for the same class who were also NYC-dwelling, Hispanic low total time regional FOs, so the pattern didn't strike me exactly as coincidental. Just a hunch, but someone who is an average white male coming from the regionals will probably have to jump through a few hoops like job fairs, LORs, flight credentails, extracurricular activism, and union work to go to JetBlue especially now with your new contract.

The pictures of our new-hire classes simply don’t bear out your assumption. I know 90% of my class didn’t check any “diversity” boxes, so if you want the job, do what’s in your control to make yourself marketable and don’t try to project any shortcomings onto those who get called.

GuppyPuppy 08-01-2018 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by FedUpPayMe (Post 2646690)
There must be something that B6 is looking for. I can't quite place what it is, though. My buddy has lived in NYC for all this life, and he was hired with 0 TPIC, CRJ type rating, Hispanic (miniority), less than 4000 hours total time. He was lucky in that he had zero LORs and was spared the hassle of going to a job fair. The People's Department must like this type of background.

https://youtu.be/r8sNXgoKt0Q

New gouge.

pilotpayne 08-01-2018 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by todd1200 (Post 2646753)
The pictures of our new-hire classes simply don’t bear out your assumption. I know 90% of my class didn’t check any “diversity” boxes, so if you want the job, do what’s in your control to make yourself marketable and don’t try to project any shortcomings onto those who get called.

Maybe that is why giggity is all about a more diverse jetblue.

INVERTED 08-01-2018 04:36 PM

FYI for those applying.

I passed the video interview and submitted the flight addendum. I received an email to expect an in person interview invite towards the later part of September.

6600TT
(half mil helo & half civ & mil Fixed Wing)
1400 TPIC (non 121)
Masters Degree
Previous Regional 121
Current Part 91 corporate
Previous Part 91 CP
Current mil fixed wing
No JB LORs, external only.
I know no one at JB.

Bluedriver 08-01-2018 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by INVERTED (Post 2646950)
FYI for those applying.

I passed the video interview and submitted the flight addendum. I received an email to expect an in person interview invite towards the later part of September.

6600TT
(half mil helo & half civ & mil Fixed Wing)
1400 TPIC (non 121)
Masters Degree
Previous Regional 121
Current Part 91 corporate
Previous Part 91 CP
Current mil fixed wing
No JB LORs, external only.
I know no one at JB.

Good luck, we're all counting on you.

MGMTiswatchingU 08-01-2018 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull (Post 2646748)
I like the bit, "Hispanic (miniority)". Maybe you haven't been called because you put "White (majority)" on your app?


p.s. your buddy probably spelled "minority" correctly.

It's interesting isn't it? How FedUpPayMe dropped that lil gem in there beside "Hispanic". Even more interesting, everyone else (except you of course) just stepped pass it like it's perfectly acceptable.

Let's avoid the elephant. Smh. Pathetic

PasserOGas 08-02-2018 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by MGMTiswatchingU (Post 2646984)
It's interesting isn't it? How FedUpPayMe dropped that lil gem in there beside "Hispanic". Even more interesting, everyone else (except you of course) just stepped pass it like it's perfectly acceptable.

Let's avoid the elephant. Smh. Pathetic

Uh, airlines hire preferentially based on race and gender. Specifically if you are a woman or minority you will get hired with lower qualifications. It's a statistical fact.

Now, there are many more white, male pilots, but we tend to get hired with more time and more hoops to jump through.

There is no OBAP, WAI, or GPA with all the recruiters there for us.

hyperboy 08-02-2018 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2647438)
Uh, airlines hire preferentially based on race and gender. Specifically if you are a woman or minority you will get hired with lower qualifications. It's a statistical fact.

Now, there are many more white, male pilots, but we tend to get hired with more time and more hoops to jump through.

There is no OBAP, WAI, or GPA with all the recruiters there for us.


Sorry you are wrong and this is called discrimination.

CrispyBacon 08-02-2018 04:45 AM

This is why I need to legally change my name to Shanequa. Maybe, my app will get a review then....:mad:

GuppyPuppy 08-02-2018 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2647449)
Sorry you are wrong and this is called discrimination.

Fly a trip with me and I think I can explain what he is saying and why.

Gup

todd1200 08-02-2018 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by CrispyBacon (Post 2647450)
This is why I need to legally change my name to Shanequa. Maybe, my app will get a review then....:mad:

Sounds like you have bigger issues than your name that are holding you back.

Bozo the pilot 08-02-2018 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2647438)
Uh, airlines hire preferentially based on race and gender. Specifically if you are a woman or minority you will get hired with lower qualifications. It's a statistical fact.

Now, there are many more white, male pilots, but we tend to get hired with more time and more hoops to jump through.

There is no OBAP, WAI, or GPA with all the recruiters there for us.

With you all the way Pog. Great point.

Bozo the pilot 08-02-2018 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2647449)
Sorry you are wrong and this is called discrimination.

He's right HB. Its just a fact. Not judging, just observing.

CrispyBacon 08-02-2018 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by todd1200 (Post 2647750)
Sounds like you have bigger issues than your name that are holding you back.

True, but you would never guess just how screwed up I am by looking at me or my application. ;):D

MGMTiswatchingU 08-02-2018 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2647438)
Uh, airlines hire preferentially based on race and gender. Specifically if you are a woman or minority you will get hired with lower qualifications. It's a statistical fact.

Now, there are many more white, male pilots, but we tend to get hired with more time and more hoops to jump through.

There is no OBAP, WAI, or GPA with all the recruiters there for us.

I'm sorry but a Hispanic can be just as qualified or MORE than the next guy. I refuse your observation. They're just labels. Because one is birthed as a hispanic he/she is automatically regarded as a minority. Smh. Again, Pathetic.

But you'll never understand.

Gordie H 08-02-2018 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by CrispyBacon (Post 2647450)
This is why I need to legally change my name to Shanequa. Maybe, my app will get a review then....:mad:

Dude, you might want to reconsider your application…just don’t think you’d be happy here. Besides, did you know Delta new hires get issued brand new Maserati’s? Jet Blue pilots get crappy used 1980’s Toyota pickup (with camel in the back)….reference the other thread :p

Gordie H 08-02-2018 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2647438)
Uh, airlines hire preferentially based on race and gender. Specifically if you are a woman or minority you will get hired with lower qualifications. It's a statistical fact.

Now, there are many more white, male pilots, but we tend to get hired with more time and more hoops to jump through.

There is no OBAP, WAI, or GPA with all the recruiters there for us.

This post comes off as if you personally are at some kind of disadvantage getting hired by a legacy these days…being a white male and all. I’m assuming you are (or were) a military tanker pilot? Everyone I know (military aviation) has at minimum, gotten a legacy interview. Half my old squadron is at Delta (which includes many white guys with relatively low hours / average records, etc)….

Do you think you’re disadvantaged?

seekingblue 08-02-2018 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Gordie H (Post 2647810)
This post comes off as if you personally are at some kind of disadvantage getting hired by a legacy these days…being a white male and all. I’m assuming you are (or were) a military tanker pilot? Everyone I know (military aviation) has at minimum, gotten a legacy interview. Half my old squadron is at Delta (which includes many white guys with relatively low hours / average records, etc)….

Do you think you’re disadvantaged?

Sooooo......

Back to helping guys who want to work here.

PDTFlyer 08-02-2018 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by seekingblue (Post 2647848)
Sooooo......

Back to helping guys who want to work here.

Thank you!!

PasserOGas 08-02-2018 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by MGMTiswatchingU (Post 2647776)
I'm sorry but a Hispanic can be just as qualified or MORE than the next guy. I refuse your observation. They're just labels. Because one is birthed as a hispanic he/she is automatically regarded as a minority. Smh. Again, Pathetic.

But you'll never understand.


Ok. You misunderstand my point. No doubt there are superior female and minority pilots. Most are just normal. I am not making a qualitative judgment about their flying skills. I am stating a fact. Women/minorities are being preferentially interviewed and hired by ALL major airlines. If this is news to you I don't know where you have been.

There is a reason why literally everyone was sending recruiters to OBAP and WAI and then stopped when all the white guys started crashing the party.

Yes it is discrimination. Whether it's wrong or not seems to depend on your world view.

PSU Flyer 08-02-2018 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2647449)
Sorry you are wrong and this is called discrimination.

I think you mean affirmative action.

PSU Flyer 08-02-2018 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Gordie H (Post 2647810)
This post comes off as if you personally are at some kind of disadvantage getting hired by a legacy these days…being a white male and all. I’m assuming you are (or were) a military tanker pilot? Everyone I know (military aviation) has at minimum, gotten a legacy interview. Half my old squadron is at Delta (which includes many white guys with relatively low hours / average records, etc)….

Do you think you’re disadvantaged?


Just curious why you’re not at Delta or another legacy if it’s so easy for military guys? Were you military but not a flyer? I know quite a few military guys that can’t get called by any legacies. Especially active reservists.

Fleet Warp 08-02-2018 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by PSU Flyer (Post 2647882)
I think you mean affirmative action.

Affirmative action is a fancy sounding politically correct form of DISCRIMINATION.

PSU Flyer 08-02-2018 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Fleet Warp (Post 2647919)
Affirmative action is a fancy sounding politically correct form of DISCRIMINATION.

I agree completely. Just pointing out that when a minority is “discriminated” against, it’s often viewed as DISCRIMINATION with a negative connotation. When a majority class is “discriminated” against, it’s often viewed as AFFIRMATIVE ACTION which, to some people, has a positive connotation. If a white male doesn’t get a job, for example, no one really calls it discrimination. The point is, that both ways are discrimination. One is just more “acceptable” to some people. The whole thing is rather stupid if you ask me. Just hire people or treat people based on their qualifications and not on their race, gender, religion, etc. It really isn’t that hard.

MGMTiswatchingU 08-02-2018 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by PSU Flyer (Post 2647949)
......Just hire people or treat people based on their qualifications and not on their race, gender, religion, etc. It really isn’t that hard.

I agree. Hire based on quals, leave "my race" alone. The race have nothing to do with 5000TT+

hyperboy 08-02-2018 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 2647758)
He's right HB. Its just a fact. Not judging, just observing.

There is no way to know any of this information on the application. So whats a fact?:confused:


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