Jetblu Interview stages
10-18-2018, 10:53 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Sorry, but ARL was spot on.
Why can't they follow their own advice? Or are they that bad that we are stuck with them?
10-18-2018, 12:13 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
When are you doing steps 8 and 9?
Times are different now and therefore applicants need to be aware of what the cult is like. They need to be told the truth and, unfortunately, there are too many that buy into the BS and fail to see the forest through the trees.
10-18-2018, 12:21 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by benzoate
Some of us are just too old to start over and but that doesn’t mean we don’t want others to learn from our mistakes. The industry is fickle so some of us just got stuck. 9-11 hurt a lot of us.
Times are different now and therefore applicants need to be aware of what the cult is like. They need to be told the truth and, unfortunately, there are too many that buy into the BS and fail to see the forest through the trees.
Times are different now and therefore applicants need to be aware of what the cult is like. They need to be told the truth and, unfortunately, there are too many that buy into the BS and fail to see the forest through the trees.
Oh my I’m just giving BD a hard time.
And I don’t overly disagree or just don’t care these days.
10-18-2018, 01:06 PM
#15
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
When are you doing steps 8 and 9?
It's like slow boiling a frog...
10-18-2018, 01:10 PM
#16
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
I love it how guys on here talk smack and tell everyone to leave. But they NEVER leave themselves. Small minority. Vocal minority.
Why can't they follow their own advice? Or are they that bad that we are stuck with them?
Why can't they follow their own advice? Or are they that bad that we are stuck with them?
As Benz said, some of us want to at least make others aware of the mistakes we made, so that they understand the cult straight away and can do better for themselves.
And... JB is worse now in my opinion than when I got hired.....
10-18-2018, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Like I said to Payne, the steps suggest that you figure out your mistake after getting on line. I wasn't smart enough to figure it out and am now half way up the seniority list.
As Benz said, some of us want to at least make others aware of the mistakes we made, so that they understand the cult straight away and can do better for themselves.
And... JB is worse now in my opinion than when I got hired.....
As Benz said, some of us want to at least make others aware of the mistakes we made, so that they understand the cult straight away and can do better for themselves.
And... JB is worse now in my opinion than when I got hired.....
10-18-2018, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Like I said to Payne, the steps suggest that you figure out your mistake after getting on line. I wasn't smart enough to figure it out and am now half way up the seniority list.
As Benz said, some of us want to at least make others aware of the mistakes we made, so that they understand the cult straight away and can do better for themselves.
And... JB is worse now in my opinion than when I got hired.....
As Benz said, some of us want to at least make others aware of the mistakes we made, so that they understand the cult straight away and can do better for themselves.
And... JB is worse now in my opinion than when I got hired.....
But I don’t see the problem with keeping options open. An FO asked me about it I said the same thing I always say. Interview get the job and decide at that point. There is way to much theory and stress created by it. Go to work have fun( I still do) apply and see what happens.
I don’t think the company is worse but I do think we lack vision. It sure could be turned around quick or we could lumber on. If you look at past history we lumber on but as we all know airlines change quick. If we had real leadership this could be a great airline. The parts are all there they just are not used correctly. (Especially the employees that want to do a good job and be proud of their company). We have definitely let Wall St run the place and the stock keeps going down. That needs to change but I’m not sure it will with this ELT.
If I lived in the northeast or FL I would still apply here. But anywhere else not so much. But definitely keep options open, our ELT sure does.
I still like JetBlue I just don’t like knowing the total potential it has that is just totally squandered by stupid decisions and a lack of focus.
If someone came in with a real vision and a get back to basics plan while cleaning up SOC and middle management and focused on achievable goals this place could kill it.
It’s like the hot girl that doesn’t know she is hot. But again that would take real leadership and also have them admit that they have failed at things.
They should just say they failed to take care of the employees hence the unions but the past is the past and we all need to move in one direction with real goals. Work with the unions and the employees to get back to what JetBlue was.
10-18-2018, 03:30 PM
#20
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Man don’t ya hate being half way up a seniority list?
But I don’t see the problem with keeping options open. An FO asked me about it I said the same thing I always say. Interview get the job and decide at that point. There is way to much theory and stress created by it. Go to work have fun( I still do) apply and see what happens.
I don’t think the company is worse but I do think we lack vision. It sure could be turned around quick or we could lumber on. If you look at past history we lumber on but as we all know airlines change quick. If we had real leadership this could be a great airline. The parts are all there they just are not used correctly. (Especially the employees that want to do a good job and be proud of their company). We have definitely let Wall St run the place and the stock keeps going down. That needs to change but I’m not sure it will with this ELT.
If I lived in the northeast or FL I would still apply here. But anywhere else not so much. But definitely keep options open, our ELT sure does.
I still like JetBlue I just don’t like knowing the total potential it has that is just totally squandered by stupid decisions and a lack of focus.
If someone came in with a real vision and a get back to basics plan while cleaning up SOC and middle management and focused on achievable goals this place could kill it.
It’s like the hot girl that doesn’t know she is hot. But again that would take real leadership and also have them admit that they have failed at things.
They should just say they failed to take care of the employees hence the unions but the past is the past and we all need to move in one direction with real goals. Work with the unions and the employees to get back to what JetBlue was.
But I don’t see the problem with keeping options open. An FO asked me about it I said the same thing I always say. Interview get the job and decide at that point. There is way to much theory and stress created by it. Go to work have fun( I still do) apply and see what happens.
I don’t think the company is worse but I do think we lack vision. It sure could be turned around quick or we could lumber on. If you look at past history we lumber on but as we all know airlines change quick. If we had real leadership this could be a great airline. The parts are all there they just are not used correctly. (Especially the employees that want to do a good job and be proud of their company). We have definitely let Wall St run the place and the stock keeps going down. That needs to change but I’m not sure it will with this ELT.
If I lived in the northeast or FL I would still apply here. But anywhere else not so much. But definitely keep options open, our ELT sure does.
I still like JetBlue I just don’t like knowing the total potential it has that is just totally squandered by stupid decisions and a lack of focus.
If someone came in with a real vision and a get back to basics plan while cleaning up SOC and middle management and focused on achievable goals this place could kill it.
It’s like the hot girl that doesn’t know she is hot. But again that would take real leadership and also have them admit that they have failed at things.
They should just say they failed to take care of the employees hence the unions but the past is the past and we all need to move in one direction with real goals. Work with the unions and the employees to get back to what JetBlue was.
We used to get 150% for EVERYTHING above 78 hours. You could call in sick, and get paid 150%...
Annual pay review, while not perfect, had our hourly rate close to our Legacy peers. Of course the company took that away unilaterally when our peers started to get big raises.
At JB, our seniority movement is overwhelming predicated on growth. We have very notably slowed our fleet growth, based on deferrals and revised delivery schedules to slow our growth rate.
Complete and total lack of corporate vision, focus and execution. Which adds up to epic wasted potential.
Those are some of the big things that have changed for the worse in my opinion.
So relative to most of our big airline peers, I cannot in any way see this place as as valuable of a career for a new-hire.
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