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02-12-2019 | 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Std Deviation

I have no children and yet have to pay taxes to educate the offspring of others. It would be awesome if I could adjust my payments based on the quality of graduates from the local public school system. Pay for performance.

But can’t you argue that living in an area with a good school system increases your property values?

02-12-2019 | 10:38 AM

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I'll play devils advocate here. I think we can all agree ALPAs performance has been lackluster at best. Slightly above negligent at worst. Whenever I attempt to use them as a resource I am disappointed. What if there was a way to punish them for this non performance? What if I only paid dues because they were actually worth it?

And how would you accurately rate performance? Not stiring the pot but adding to the devils advocate idea.

02-12-2019 | 11:36 AM

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But can’t you argue that living in an area with a good school system increases your property values?

Agreed. That’s why I approach it tongue in cheek when I describe it as taxation with no representation. We all pay for things we don’t directly need that benefit the greater good. Or, that we need irregularly - the police or fire dept - but still pay full price for. Same with ALPA.

02-12-2019 | 11:40 AM

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I get that, but don't you think the union might care about results and cost/benefit a little more if dues were optional? Maybe fewer lobster dinners and chasing meaningless LSA reform and more focus on the stuff that we actually pay them for?

I can speak for one committee here that voluntarily attended training with no loss of flight pay compensation. I did some volunteer work and never expensed my meals. I’m a penny pincher when it comes to other people’s money. Can’t speak for everyone of course.

02-12-2019 | 01:32 PM

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You’re an anomaly in the ALPA ranks if the truth ye tell, because having seen firsthand this ideal in many when they begin, but oh how quickly it erodes when the wastefulness becomes the norm. Biggest reason DALPA was in question.

02-12-2019 | 03:33 PM

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how quickly it erodes when the wastefulness becomes the norm..

Saw this at a local charity I was donating money to. Discovered board members were using donations to pay for things like cocktails during board meetings. Not cool.

02-12-2019 | 04:07 PM

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Saw this at a local charity I was donating money to. Discovered board members were using donations to pay for things like cocktails during board meetings. Not cool.

Most charities do this. I believe only 10% of donations have to go to actual use to be considered a legal charity.