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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2745251)
Correct. Now interesting thing is the FA jumpseat is by pilot seniority as well. I’m not sure I agree with that one. Especially after missing a commute that’s to a guy helping out the company and than taking the FA jumpseat to get back home. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
(Post 2745335)
Captain shoulda stepped in and said no way.
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There will be far fewer cabin jumpseats on the reconfigured planes too. Also deadheaders should be aware of who is waiting for a jumpseat before they give up their cabin seat to a non employee.
Its still easier to commute on B6 flights compared to most airlines thanks to not overbooking everything. But don't forget to help clean! |
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2745371)
Nope it’s in the book we looked. Nothing I could do. FA seat also goes by seniority.
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
(Post 2745402)
But he was helping the company? Guessing it was a deadheader who gave up his seat to Jumpseat. That’s very very poor etiquette. Captain should have discouraged him or at least not let him sit there. It is captains choice as well. His plane.
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Originally Posted by queue
(Post 2738717)
Regardless of what lie or half truth the chief pilots put out, if you are going to work and you clean, your duty starts then, not at report time. That is the LAW and you are legally liable. It's your license, not JBs. JB is not liable for your breaking the FARs, regardless of what "policies" they have. The FAA put out their legal interpretation and it does not favor JBs practices. They are counting on your ignorance. Clean, but duty on early and screw up your pairing. It's the law.
If you clean on your commute into work then you are on duty from that moment. Required work = on duty. All it takes is one deadheading/flying pilot who sees you cleaning and might be concerned about your level of fatigue to check your schedule and call the FAA if you didn't call CS to start your duty. https://www3.alpa.org/LinkClick.aspx...%3D&tabid=9042 |
Originally Posted by IrishNJ
(Post 2745564)
Thank you for correctly outlining the current FAA legal interpretation. The misleading comms that have been sent to us by our management in an effort to confuse the issue could get someone in hot water with the FAA.
If you clean on your commute into work then you are on duty from that moment. Required work = on duty. All it takes is one deadheading/flying pilot who sees you cleaning and might be concerned about your level of fatigue to check your schedule and call the FAA if you didn't call CS to start your duty. https://www3.alpa.org/LinkClick.aspx...%3D&tabid=9042 |
Originally Posted by Bluetruth
(Post 2745400)
There will be far fewer cabin jumpseats on the reconfigured planes too. Also deadheaders should be aware of who is waiting for a jumpseat before they give up their cabin seat to a non employee.
Its still easier to commute on B6 flights compared to most airlines thanks to not overbooking everything. But don't forget to help clean! |
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2745930)
There is no reason to ever take a js if you are DHing.
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2745930)
There is no reason to ever take a js if you are DHing.
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