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Old 02-13-2019, 05:59 PM   #21  
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I just wish Alaska had a better scope section.

(Iím sure the Alaska guys feel similarly)
I wish Alaska had A scope section
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Old 02-13-2019, 06:05 PM   #22  
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Not that it means squat, but at the company pep rally sessions in SEA Alaska management has claimed no more mergers, again thatís meaningless, so who knows.
The current consensus guess of their plan seems to be the 319 and 320s will be gone and probably the 321 as well, so the fleet commonality argument wouldnít exist.
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Not that it means squat, but at the company pep rally sessions in SEA Alaska management has claimed no more mergers, again thatís meaningless, so who knows.
The current consensus guess of their plan seems to be the 319 and 320s will be gone and probably the 321 as well, so the fleet commonality argument wouldnít exist.
I certainly don't know your management but speaking first hand from our dirt bag management I will say anything is possible.

Jetblue continues to waive the organic growth flag because that simple narrative keeps the majority of the employee groups head buried in the sand. Ignorance is truly bliss and if you believe management is looking out for you then you typically come to work and do more.

The reality, from a jetblue standpoin,t is management pursued Frontier in the early 10's. They publicly bid for Virgin in '16, Delta made an offer in '17(according to a department senior finance member) and then recently the NDA signed with UAL.

I don't know about the AK pilot group but the Jetblue group is amongst the most naive out there and truly believe Jetblue is wholesome and would sell the airline. Bullsheet! Gigitys statements to the media, the recent Forbes article and the simple, most basic, reason why a merger will happen is the entire investment community knows Jetblue management, excuse me leadership, is in over their heads and the only way out is to move on.

Something is coming, there's nothing we can do about it and having to fly with pilots who still believe in Jetblue management is like finger nails on a chalk board.
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:54 AM   #24  
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I certainly don't know your management but speaking first hand from our dirt bag management I will say anything is possible.

Jetblue continues to waive the organic growth flag because that simple narrative keeps the majority of the employee groups head buried in the sand. Ignorance is truly bliss and if you believe management is looking out for you then you typically come to work and do more.

The reality, from a jetblue standpoin,t is management pursued Frontier in the early 10's. They publicly bid for Virgin in '16, Delta made an offer in '17(according to a department senior finance member) and then recently the NDA signed with UAL.

I don't know about the AK pilot group but the Jetblue group is amongst the most naive out there and truly believe Jetblue is wholesome and would sell the airline. Bullsheet! Gigitys statements to the media, the recent Forbes article and the simple, most basic, reason why a merger will happen is the entire investment community knows Jetblue management, excuse me leadership, is in over their heads and the only way out is to move on.

Something is coming, there's nothing we can do about it and having to fly with pilots who still believe in Jetblue management is like finger nails on a chalk board.
Dal made an offer? First ever heard of that. Every airline exec has a golden parachute so they will be fine anywhich way.
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No merger will take place while airlines are making gobs and gobs of money. Why upset the investor apple cart if you donít need to?
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No merger will take place while airlines are making gobs and gobs of money. Why upset the investor apple cart if you donít need to?
Except for that time we tried to get VX but AS beat us out. Back when we got more than 0.2% profit sharing...
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I certainly don't know your management but speaking first hand from our dirt bag management I will say anything is possible.

Jetblue continues to waive the organic growth flag because that simple narrative keeps the majority of the employee groups head buried in the sand. Ignorance is truly bliss and if you believe management is looking out for you then you typically come to work and do more.

The reality, from a jetblue standpoin,t is management pursued Frontier in the early 10's. They publicly bid for Virgin in '16, Delta made an offer in '17(according to a department senior finance member) and then recently the NDA signed with UAL.

I don't know about the AK pilot group but the Jetblue group is amongst the most naive out there and truly believe Jetblue is wholesome and would sell the airline. Bullsheet! Gigitys statements to the media, the recent Forbes article and the simple, most basic, reason why a merger will happen is the entire investment community knows Jetblue management, excuse me leadership, is in over their heads and the only way out is to move on.

Something is coming, there's nothing we can do about it and having to fly with pilots who still believe in Jetblue management is like finger nails on a chalk board.
Thatís a new one DAL?
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Except for that time we tried to get VX but AS beat us out. Back when we got more than 0.2% profit sharing...
So about that. Alaska took on a whole pile of debt to get VX. Would a merged Alaska/JetBlue be in a worse-off place than if JetBlue had won that merger instead? I'm worried that a merged Alaska/JetBlue would be financially worse-off than if we stayed separate.
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No merger will take place while airlines are making gobs and gobs of money. Why upset the investor apple cart if you donít need to?

Itís because of mergers airlines are making gobs and gobs of money.
We have less airlines now vs the time before deregulation.
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Thatís a new one DAL?
Cue the ďDelta and Jetblue?Ē thread.
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