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Aviator152 04-12-2019 05:49 AM

A220
 
I’m looking at coming to JetBlue and am wondering if there is any information on where the A220’s will be based? I would eventually like to be based in Orlando, but not sure how getting the 190 now and then changing aircraft to A220 would affect that. Do you think that the new aircraft arrival would mean a longer or shorter time in JFK or BOS for a new hire?

Flyby1206 04-12-2019 06:08 AM

We won't get our first 220 until late 2020, entry into service 2021. It will likely be 2-3 more years til we get a significant number of them, so I wouldn't worry about it at this point. They will be based in BOS initially, my speculation is JFK is likely next, then FLL and MCO. The E190 will be around a lot longer than everyone thinks. We haven't even solidified a retirement schedule for them yet.

RiddleEagle18 04-12-2019 06:25 AM

Anyone else hearing rumors of the company moving the MCO190 base down to FLL on the August year long bid?


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Flyby1206 04-12-2019 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 2801604)
Anyone else hearing rumors of the company moving the MCO190 base down to FLL on the August year long bid?


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Wow, 2017 rumors being recycled again? :p;)

RiddleEagle18 04-12-2019 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 2801607)
Wow, 2017 rumors being recycled again? :p;)



First time I heard it, it slipped off my
Back. The next 3 times I heard it[emoji2369][emoji2369][emoji2369]. Hopefully just a bad rumor.


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BeatNavy 04-12-2019 06:36 AM

I don’t believe that MCO rumor since MCO will be grown in a few years. Paying for and dealing with a displacement just to reopen it a bit later...I don’t see it.

TristarJS30 04-12-2019 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 2801613)
I don’t believe that MCO rumor since MCO will be grown in a few years. Paying for and dealing with a displacement just to reopen it a bit later...I don’t see it.

By the time they grow Orlando the 220 will (should) be in full swing so it would cause a displacement bid anyway as it replaces the 190.

David Puddy 04-12-2019 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Aviator152 (Post 2801576)
I’m looking at coming to JetBlue and am wondering if there is any information on where the A220’s will be based? I would eventually like to be based in Orlando, but not sure how getting the 190 now and then changing aircraft to A220 would affect that. Do you think that the new aircraft arrival would mean a longer or shorter time in JFK or BOS for a new hire?

I agree with the speculation about BOS and JFK basing for the A220 initially. But, as the presentation this week pointed out, the A220 gives a lot of route flexibility out of all bases - including MCO and FLL. With its lower break even load factor and better range, imagine possible A220 connections like MCO-BOI, FLL-PHX, HPN-LAX, MCO-PDX, etc. The A220 will offer many new route options from both MCO and FLL.

If JB wants to solidify (or protect) its position in the Orlando market as Spirit and SWA continue to expand, it will need to lower CASMs on competitive markets (ie NE-FL) through more seats/capacity and open up new, nonstop markets that bypass traditional hubs - and you can do that effectively with a fuel efficient and flexible airplane like the A220. The E190 is too inflexible and limiting from a revenue-upside perspective.

Side note: I met a Delta pilot who is training on the A220 recently and he said it was the easiest airplane he has ever flown and he will likely not bid off it for a very long time. That was his perspective (opinions will vary). :)

aldonite7667 04-12-2019 11:18 AM

190 will be on the property for 10 more years. Hear me now, believe me later.

capt707 04-12-2019 11:26 AM

They just mentioned at the party that the 220 is going to BOS. It will have 140 seats.

https://i.ibb.co/Kbzqzsm/E1170-F9-F-...8-BCD63901.jpg


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