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KNOTAPILOT 06-18-2019 08:06 AM

I agree a lot of the VDAs will go away unfortunately but think about the last time anyone got a VDA that had a scheduled departure more than 3 hours in advance. That last minute please help someone timed out and we didn’t see it coming or the fatigue call or whatever will still need a VDA.

CaptCoolHand 06-18-2019 08:51 AM

I encourage all VDA adicts to continue to pick up. Especially in the southern bases as it makes my job of not going to work much easier.

Bluedriver 06-18-2019 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2838871)
I encourage all VDA adicts to continue to pick up. Especially in the southern bases as it makes my job of not going to work much easier.

They're not "addicts", they are "Lemonade'rs".

BlueJetDork 06-18-2019 10:08 AM

This group!

Lost 100% override and paper dead head protection for what?

To stick it to the senior guy even though the first three premium opportunities are FCFC.

City pair transparency that already substantially exists.

No wonder this contract passed with less than PSIA average base pay, no PS, the bottom of the barrel COLA, crap health care all the way down to crew meal that would be otherwise be thrown away because they have almost exceeded their safe shelf life outside of a refrigerator and are not fit for customers. So let's give it to the flight crew!!!

TMAAT you voted for a contract placed you in the middle of the bottom third. What did you do?

I waited until next time!

Bluedriver 06-18-2019 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by BlueJetDork (Post 2838914)
This group!

Lost 100% override and paper dead head protection for what?

To stick it to the senior guy even though the first three premium opportunities are FCFC.

City pair transparency that already substantially exists.

No wonder this contract passed with less than PSIA average base pay, no PS, the bottom of the barrel COLA, crap health care all the way down to crew meal that would be otherwise be thrown away because they have almost exceeded their safe shelf life outside of a refrigerator and are not fit for customers. So let's give it to the flight crew!!!

TMAAT you voted for a contract placed you in the middle of the bottom third. What did you do?

I waited until next time!

Peers get THOUSANDS of dollars in profit sharing. JB pilots get to make lemonade.

Softpayman 06-18-2019 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by BlueJetDork (Post 2838914)
This group!

Lost 100% override and paper dead head protection for what?

e!

100% override to work the 1am shift manning the phone with Ms Cleo! You too can be on reserve again after being top 20% in your seat! Oh wait that didn’t go away. Enjoy !

Wtf is a paper DH? Is this in the CBA or scheduling manual?

PasserOGas 06-18-2019 10:36 AM

Global open time = less money for the pilot group. End of story. That is why the company has been pushing for it, and finally got it. That is why it isn't implemented until the full (cost neutral) reserve language is in place.

It's another in a long line of concessions our foolish pilot group accepted in the best negotiating environment in our lifetimes.

PasserOGas 06-18-2019 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 2838933)
100% override to work the 1am shift manning the phone with Ms Cleo! You too can be on reserve again after being top 20% in your seat! Oh wait that didn’t go away. Enjoy !

Wtf is a paper DH? Is this in the CBA or scheduling manual?

It's when you are based in BOS, but live in DC. You put in for VDA in DC, they call you and must pay you for the DH to and from DC even though it never happened.

All at double. Or it used to be anyway. Welcome to JetBlue. You will find our pilot group isn't very smart.

BlueJetDork 06-18-2019 11:16 AM

FCFS POT is what we had before:

“We did not take PP away we just removed the trigger”.

What is new is old and we think we are moving forward.

This group!

Climbto450 06-18-2019 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 2838706)
You keep missing my point. I’m all for making extra money, but it needs to be done safely and responsibly. When scheduling calls you three times inside the WCOL for a morning show, yes I have an issue with that. Just saying that I’ll examine the overhead panel and find a way to make it through the day is unacceptable to me. I’m just saying this new premium open-time I think will allow for better planning and is a much safer practice overall....that’s all.

I see your point.


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