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Old 06-04-2019, 06:39 AM   #1  
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Massive system bid. Biggest upgrade total Iíve seen in 8+ years. Guess the CBA really did drive an increase in pilot count. We havent really grown at all this year and added 500 new hires and going to settle at over 200 upgrades.


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Old 06-04-2019, 06:51 AM   #2  
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Massive system bid. Biggest upgrade total Iíve seen in 8+ years. Guess the CBA really did drive an increase in pilot count. We havent really grown at all this year and added 500 new hires and going to settle at over 200 upgrades.


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How did you see 200 upgrades? I only counted 109 bus and 19 190 upgrades. Am I not looking roght
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How did you see 200 upgrades? I only counted 109 bus and 19 190 upgrades. Am I not looking roght


For the entire year...


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Gotcha. Thanks sorry for not understanding.
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:04 AM   #5  
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Massive system bid. Biggest upgrade total Iíve seen in 8+ years. Guess the CBA really did drive an increase in pilot count. We havent really grown at all this year and added 500 new hires and going to settle at over 200 upgrades.


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Agree, this is a large upgrade bid. Maybe the company actually plans to take all 22 deliveries next year? I think that is more likely than the contract requiring that much extra staffing. But most likely a combination of contract staffing, deliveries and fixing the chronic understaffing that predates the contract, Robin and Stonehenge.
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Iíve asked this before, but maybe someone has some new intel. Anyone have any idea if the Annual System Bid coming up will allow you to pick your training date month in 2020? Tough to plan your life when you could be going in for long-term training at any point in the following year. You can select your dates for CQT, why not long-term.
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What are the odds a bunch of 190 MCO FO's decide they can't pass on all these 320 upgrade slots in JFK/BOS/FLL and a guy with 2 months on property can slide in to 190 MCO on this bid or in August? Pure Fantasy??
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What are the odds a bunch of 190 MCO FO's decide they can't pass on all these 320 upgrade slots in JFK/BOS/FLL and a guy with 2 months on property can slide in to 190 MCO on this bid or in August? Pure Fantasy??
Not pure fantasy. Go for it.
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:23 AM   #9  
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What are the odds a bunch of 190 MCO FO's decide they can't pass on all these 320 upgrade slots in JFK/BOS/FLL and a guy with 2 months on property can slide in to 190 MCO on this bid or in August? Pure Fantasy??


A less than 4 month hire got 190mcofo a few bids back. Weird stuff happens.


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Old 06-04-2019, 07:24 AM   #10  
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Iíve asked this before, but maybe someone has some new intel. Anyone have any idea if the Annual System Bid coming up will allow you to pick your training date month in 2020? Tough to plan your life when you could be going in for long-term training at any point in the following year. You can select your dates for CQT, why not long-term.


The way I understand it, yes. But Iím not really sure many people understand it until we see the thing.

I think people waiting in the August yearly bid is going to cause this upgrade cycle to go VERY junior. Especially on the 190 side.


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