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JetBlue Training
I figured since there are threads for hiring, interview, class drop, etc. we could make one dedicated to the training process.
I understand it is about 10 days of indoc type stuff, a few systems in the FTD, procedures in the FTD, then the sims. What else would be helpful to know before arriving at JBU? Any general advice or things to keep in mind? |
Dude take a chill pill! Reading your last few posts, you need to relax and just go with it. Training here is not rocket science, and if you show up and just do what they tell you with a good attitude, you will be more than fine.
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Dude this question has been addressed so...many...times. You do not need to ‘prepare’ to go to JBU.
Make sure you have enough spare cash to survive 6-7 weeks of training pay and a bit extra to spend at the bar. |
Well, what I did, and this may sound a bit unorthodox, was show up to class, do what I was told (more or less), drink beer at the bar or on the patio, repeat.
Seriously. That’s ALL you need. If you need more coddling than that, maybe the airline pilot route isn’t quite meant for you. Not trying to be a D, but it’s that easy. |
Originally Posted by PotatoChip
(Post 2845586)
Well, what I did, and this may sound a bit unorthodox, was show up to class, do what I was told (more or less), drink beer at the bar or on the patio, repeat.
Seriously. That’s ALL you need. If you need more coddling than that, maybe the airline pilot route isn’t quite meant for you. Not trying to be a D, but it’s that easy. |
Originally Posted by localizer
(Post 2845597)
Calm down. I prepare for everything to the max extent. Us outsiders don’t know what we are walking into here.
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Originally Posted by localizer
(Post 2845597)
Calm down. I prepare for everything to the max extent. Us outsiders don’t know what we are walking into here.
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Originally Posted by capt707
(Post 2845605)
Will JB be your first airline or 121 operator?
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Originally Posted by localizer
(Post 2845611)
Negative...
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Originally Posted by localizer
(Post 2845597)
Calm down. I prepare for everything to the max extent. Us outsiders don’t know what we are walking into here.
Different world for sure! |
Originally Posted by localizer
(Post 2845597)
Calm down. I prepare for everything to the max extent. Us outsiders don’t know what we are walking into here.
So, yeah, calm down. If you’re this wound up you will not fit in. |
By the time I was done with training I was a foosball master. Pretty much all I did was have some beers and hold down the foosball table in the lobby.
No spinning, just wicked pullshot technique |
My 2 cents.
Unlike what you might be used to in the regionals; at JB systems is an absolute breeze. As is Indoc/FOM stuff. Don't worry about them. The only bit that I found a little bit of a challenge as a newhire were the Procedures. Before you hit the the 2nd week of FTDs (the P's) you need to learn the flows - they expect you to know the precise order of button pushing and what you are looking for. Prevously, my experience was that as long as it gets done, who cares how you got there. Not at JB, they're pretty anal about it. All you need to do is spend a few solid hours with your sim partner at the paper tiger making sure you know them and checking one another. |
Originally Posted by IrishNJ
(Post 2845807)
My 2 cents.
Unlike what you might be used to in the regionals; at JB systems is an absolute breeze. As is Indoc/FOM stuff. Don't worry about them. The only bit that I found a little bit of a challenge as a newhire were the Procedures. Before you hit the the 2nd week of FTDs (the P's) you need to learn the flows - they expect you to know the precise order of button pushing and what you are looking for. Prevously, my experience was that as long as it gets done, who cares how you got there. Not at JB, they're pretty anal about it. All you need to do is spend a few solid hours with your sim partner at the paper tiger making sure you know them and checking one another. What this guy said. FYI you don’t want to be the “know it all guy” it’s not appreciated down there. Just relax know your flows and calls and you will be fine. The seem to value a good attitude above all. |
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2845925)
What this guy said.
FYI you ***don’t want to be the “know it all guy” it’s not appreciated*** down there. Just relax know your flows and calls and you will be fine. The seem to value a good attitude above all. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 2845949)
Sounds like a good story, learned from experience haha?
But yes during my last training event watched a new hire go on about how many times a light would flash or something like that as the instructor was like WTF. |
Don’t forget your E6b and lots of pencils.
Highlighters are good too with multiple colors so you can highlight SOPs in the books. Your may want to invest in a new computer too. You can load flight sim on there and practice JFK- (any Florida airport). When it comes to IOE you’d be smart to just stay up all night for about a month and only nap for one or two hours during the day. You’ll get your body on then right rhythm that way. Circadian flips can be nasty. Plan ahead. When class is coming to and end make sure you have at least two questions to ask. You should be taking notes with your pencils. The instructor will appreciate your attention to detail. You’ll be noticed by management as a go getter and quickly be thrusted up the seniority list as an accelerated pace. You’ll also be helping your classmates. First by going over something they likely missed and second keeping them away from that bar in the lodge. You should be studying 3-5 hours a night to be prepared for the next days lesson. Good luck. It’s a rigorously difficult course. Especially the 190. |
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2845966)
Don’t forget your E6b and lots of pencils.
Highlighters are good too with multiple colors so you can highlight SOPs in the books. Your may want to invest in a new computer too. You can load flight sim on there and practice JFK- (any Florida airport). When it comes to IOE you’d be smart to just stay up all night for about a month and only nap for one or two hours during the day. You’ll get your body on then right rhythm that way. Circadian flips can be nasty. Plan ahead. When class is coming to and end make sure you have at least two questions to ask. You should be taking notes with your pencils. The instructor will appreciate your attention to detail. You’ll be noticed by management as a go getter and quickly be thrusted up the seniority list as an accelerated pace. You’ll also be helping your classmates. First by going over something they likely missed and second keeping them away from that bar in the lodge. You should be studying 3-5 hours a night to be prepared for the next days lesson. Good luck. It’s a rigorously difficult course. Especially the 190. I would just add that you should also memorize the FCOM manuals, all volumes and memorize the QRH. Some say you should also make flash cards with all the OPS-SPECS, but I think you could/might pass without doing that. |
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2845955)
Lol you got the wrong guy. I’m a slacker when it comes to training just know my calls and procedures and which letter they are using for the spv and I call it a day.
But yes during my last training event watched a new hire go on about how many times a light would flash or something like that as the instructor was like WTF. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 2846205)
This will probably get you started. It's a little lite on the studying and memorizing, but should get you at least a 70% or better.
I would just add that you should also memorize the FCOM manuals, all volumes and memorize the QRH. Some say you should also make flash cards with all the OPS-SPECS, but I think you could/might pass without doing that. |
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2846488)
The OSV (opsspec validation) is no longer multiple choice. Just a heads up. The POI didn’t like all the gouge floating around.
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2846488)
The OSV (opsspec validation) is no longer multiple choice. Just a heads up. The POI didn’t like all the gouge floating around.
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Originally Posted by nuball5
(Post 2846500)
Operation validation (OPV) you mean? Unless they call it different now.
3585 has also come back too. Need to be able to identify all usable runways and mins. It was in 365... I think. maybe an email. maybe. |
Originally Posted by nuball5
(Post 2846500)
Operation validation (OPV) you mean? Unless they call it different now.
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A lot of you guys need to get your sarcasm detectors fixed. Good lord.
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
(Post 2846545)
There is no longer an OPV during CQT. It consists of SPV knowledge proficiency (about 48 questions come from a data bank of questions vs a particular set of questions we used to memorize) as well as QDL multiple choice questions.
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
(Post 2846545)
There is no longer an OPV during CQT. It consists of SPV knowledge proficiency (about 48 questions come from a data bank of questions vs a particular set of questions we used to memorize) as well as QDL multiple choice questions.
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2846540)
no no... totally different. Lots of changes lately, hard to keep track.
3585 has also come back too. Need to be able to identify all usable runways and mins. It was in 365... I think. maybe an email. maybe. |
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2846558)
I don’t think that’s correct. start studying for the CQT, ASAP, cause a failed OPV could make you MIA from the OSC. I’d also make for sure you now how the angle of the dangle is inversely proportionate to the mass of the ass.
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Originally Posted by nuball5
(Post 2846559)
They also using FCOM Vol 2 for SPV questions?
*******it. I can’t. 🤣 Just disregard my last three or four posts here. JB training is hands down the easiest cycle you’ll ever do if you know how to fly a plane and program a DVR. Show up learn what you’re told to learn and relax. Everything for recurrent is in comply. Limitations memory items QDL junk. Study for checkride in security training like everyone else. Back to the line with you. If you fail bluejet training you’re in a special club. I remember spending lots of time drinking beer and learning flows.... or was it flows and beer? Flowing beer. That’s it. |
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2846564)
Um....
*******it. I can’t. 🤣 Just disregard my last three or four posts here. JB training is hands down the easiest cycle you’ll ever do if you know how to fly a plane and program a DVR. Show up learn what you’re told to learn and relax. Everything for recurrent is in comply. Limitations memory items QDL junk. Study for checkride in security training like everyone else. Back to the line with you. If you fail bluejet training you’re in a special club. I remember spending lots of time drinking beer and learning flows.... or was it flows and beer? Flowing beer. That’s it. |
Well, in my defense I’m 6 weeks into a bum leg with 4weeks to go. I’m board and the internet is full of easy entertainment.
To the OP, don’t take it to seriously. There’s really nothing to prep for. They’ll teach you what they want you to know. The bucket can only hold so many frogs. |
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2846571)
Well, in my defense I’m 6 weeks into a bum leg with 4weeks to go. I’m board and the internet is full of easy entertainment.
To the OP, don’t take it to seriously. There’s really nothing to prep for. They’ll teach you what they want you to know. The bucket can only hold so many frogs. Oh, and try not to be such a board. Being bored is better. Now that pride month is behind us, that is. |
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2846564)
Um....
*******it. I can’t. 🤣 Just disregard my last three or four posts here. JB training is hands down the easiest cycle you’ll ever do if you know how to fly a plane and program a DVR. Show up learn what you’re told to learn and relax. Everything for recurrent is in comply. Limitations memory items QDL junk. Study for checkride in security training like everyone else. Back to the line with you. If you fail bluejet training you’re in a special club. I remember spending lots of time drinking beer and learning flows.... or was it flows and beer? Flowing beer. That’s it. |
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
(Post 2846564)
Um....
*******it. I can’t. 🤣 Just disregard my last three or four posts here. JB training is hands down the easiest cycle you’ll ever do if you know how to fly a plane and program a DVR. Show up learn what you’re told to learn and relax. Everything for recurrent is in comply. Limitations memory items QDL junk. Study for checkride in security training like everyone else. Back to the line with you. If you fail bluejet training you’re in a special club. I remember spending lots of time drinking beer and learning flows.... or was it flows and beer? Flowing beer. That’s it. QDL? Also, are the FTDs nice touchscreens? How is it set up? |
Originally Posted by localizer
(Post 2846655)
QDL?
Also, are the FTDs nice touchscreens? How is it set up? |
Originally Posted by localizer
(Post 2846655)
QDL?
Also, are the FTDs nice touchscreens? How is it set up? FTDs suck. Strictly there for procedure. Flys like crap. |
Originally Posted by Joachim
(Post 2845635)
I’ll never forget the first OE lesson I did with a European carrier. I’m sitting in a wide body for the first time, Boeing for the first time, in Europe for the first time, under EASA regulations on a waiver, and the training Captain keeps barking: why don’t you know this, why don’t you know that, this is ridiculous, did you not study!?! My fellow (European) trainees showed up with pages of notes and here I was with my “just relax it will be fine” attitude...
Different world for sure! |
Originally Posted by localizer
(Post 2846655)
QDL?
Also, are the FTDs nice touchscreens? How is it set up? |
Originally Posted by 360KIAS
(Post 2846570)
Just the fax, ma'am!!
Filler. |
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