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localizer 06-30-2019 07:30 AM

JetBlue Training
 
I figured since there are threads for hiring, interview, class drop, etc. we could make one dedicated to the training process.

I understand it is about 10 days of indoc type stuff, a few systems in the FTD, procedures in the FTD, then the sims.

What else would be helpful to know before arriving at JBU? Any general advice or things to keep in mind?

capt707 06-30-2019 08:00 AM

Dude take a chill pill! Reading your last few posts, you need to relax and just go with it. Training here is not rocket science, and if you show up and just do what they tell you with a good attitude, you will be more than fine.

ClncClarence 06-30-2019 08:11 AM

Dude this question has been addressed so...many...times. You do not need to ‘prepare’ to go to JBU.

Make sure you have enough spare cash to survive 6-7 weeks of training pay and a bit extra to spend at the bar.

PotatoChip 06-30-2019 08:17 AM

Well, what I did, and this may sound a bit unorthodox, was show up to class, do what I was told (more or less), drink beer at the bar or on the patio, repeat.
Seriously. That’s ALL you need. If you need more coddling than that, maybe the airline pilot route isn’t quite meant for you. Not trying to be a D, but it’s that easy.

localizer 06-30-2019 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 2845586)
Well, what I did, and this may sound a bit unorthodox, was show up to class, do what I was told (more or less), drink beer at the bar or on the patio, repeat.
Seriously. That’s ALL you need. If you need more coddling than that, maybe the airline pilot route isn’t quite meant for you. Not trying to be a D, but it’s that easy.

Calm down. I prepare for everything to the max extent. Us outsiders don’t know what we are walking into here.

Quiet Storm 06-30-2019 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by localizer (Post 2845597)
Calm down. I prepare for everything to the max extent. Us outsiders don’t know what we are walking into here.

But there have been previous threads that say all the same information, saying the same thing "JBU is super relaxed and easy " you don't need to anything special to prepare . Just show up follow instruction and make some new friends . This new thread is not necessary. Relax

capt707 06-30-2019 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by localizer (Post 2845597)
Calm down. I prepare for everything to the max extent. Us outsiders don’t know what we are walking into here.

Will JB be your first airline or 121 operator?

localizer 06-30-2019 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by capt707 (Post 2845605)
Will JB be your first airline or 121 operator?

Negative...

capt707 06-30-2019 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by localizer (Post 2845611)
Negative...

Ok.. so then there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

Joachim 06-30-2019 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by localizer (Post 2845597)
Calm down. I prepare for everything to the max extent. Us outsiders don’t know what we are walking into here.

I’ll never forget the first OE lesson I did with a European carrier. I’m sitting in a wide body for the first time, Boeing for the first time, in Europe for the first time, under EASA regulations on a waiver, and the training Captain keeps barking: why don’t you know this, why don’t you know that, this is ridiculous, did you not study!?! My fellow (European) trainees showed up with pages of notes and here I was with my “just relax it will be fine” attitude...

Different world for sure!

PotatoChip 06-30-2019 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by localizer (Post 2845597)
Calm down. I prepare for everything to the max extent. Us outsiders don’t know what we are walking into here.

You’re walking into a 121 AQP training program that is relaxed and prepares you well for each section.
So, yeah, calm down. If you’re this wound up you will not fit in.

stanherman 06-30-2019 01:55 PM

By the time I was done with training I was a foosball master. Pretty much all I did was have some beers and hold down the foosball table in the lobby.

No spinning, just wicked pullshot technique

IrishNJ 06-30-2019 05:01 PM

My 2 cents.

Unlike what you might be used to in the regionals; at JB systems is an absolute breeze. As is Indoc/FOM stuff. Don't worry about them.

The only bit that I found a little bit of a challenge as a newhire were the Procedures. Before you hit the the 2nd week of FTDs (the P's) you need to learn the flows - they expect you to know the precise order of button pushing and what you are looking for. Prevously, my experience was that as long as it gets done, who cares how you got there. Not at JB, they're pretty anal about it.

All you need to do is spend a few solid hours with your sim partner at the paper tiger making sure you know them and checking one another.

pilotpayne 07-01-2019 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by IrishNJ (Post 2845807)
My 2 cents.

Unlike what you might be used to in the regionals; at JB systems is an absolute breeze. As is Indoc/FOM stuff. Don't worry about them.

The only bit that I found a little bit of a challenge as a newhire were the Procedures. Before you hit the the 2nd week of FTDs (the P's) you need to learn the flows - they expect you to know the precise order of button pushing and what you are looking for. Prevously, my experience was that as long as it gets done, who cares how you got there. Not at JB, they're pretty anal about it.

All you need to do is spend a few solid hours with your sim partner at the paper tiger making sure you know them and checking one another.


What this guy said.

FYI you don’t want to be the “know it all guy” it’s not appreciated down there. Just relax know your flows and calls and you will be fine. The seem to value a good attitude above all.

Bluedriver 07-01-2019 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2845925)
What this guy said.

FYI you ***don’t want to be the “know it all guy” it’s not appreciated*** down there. Just relax know your flows and calls and you will be fine. The seem to value a good attitude above all.

Sounds like a good story, learned from experience haha?

pilotpayne 07-01-2019 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2845949)
Sounds like a good story, learned from experience haha?

Lol you got the wrong guy. I’m a slacker when it comes to training just know my calls and procedures and which letter they are using for the spv and I call it a day.

But yes during my last training event watched a new hire go on about how many times a light would flash or something like that as the instructor was like WTF.

CaptCoolHand 07-01-2019 06:47 AM

Don’t forget your E6b and lots of pencils.
Highlighters are good too with multiple colors so you can highlight SOPs in the books.
Your may want to invest in a new computer too. You can load flight sim on there and practice JFK- (any Florida airport).
When it comes to IOE you’d be smart to just stay up all night for about a month and only nap for one or two hours during the day. You’ll get your body on then right rhythm that way. Circadian flips can be nasty. Plan ahead.
When class is coming to and end make sure you have at least two questions to ask. You should be taking notes with your pencils. The instructor will appreciate your attention to detail. You’ll be noticed by management as a go getter and quickly be thrusted up the seniority list as an accelerated pace. You’ll also be helping your classmates. First by going over something they likely missed and second keeping them away from that bar in the lodge. You should be studying 3-5 hours a night to be prepared for the next days lesson.

Good luck. It’s a rigorously difficult course. Especially the 190.

Bluedriver 07-01-2019 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2845966)
Don’t forget your E6b and lots of pencils.
Highlighters are good too with multiple colors so you can highlight SOPs in the books.
Your may want to invest in a new computer too. You can load flight sim on there and practice JFK- (any Florida airport).
When it comes to IOE you’d be smart to just stay up all night for about a month and only nap for one or two hours during the day. You’ll get your body on then right rhythm that way. Circadian flips can be nasty. Plan ahead.
When class is coming to and end make sure you have at least two questions to ask. You should be taking notes with your pencils. The instructor will appreciate your attention to detail. You’ll be noticed by management as a go getter and quickly be thrusted up the seniority list as an accelerated pace. You’ll also be helping your classmates. First by going over something they likely missed and second keeping them away from that bar in the lodge. You should be studying 3-5 hours a night to be prepared for the next days lesson.

Good luck. It’s a rigorously difficult course. Especially the 190.

This will probably get you started. It's a little lite on the studying and memorizing, but should get you at least a 70% or better.

I would just add that you should also memorize the FCOM manuals, all volumes and memorize the QRH. Some say you should also make flash cards with all the OPS-SPECS, but I think you could/might pass without doing that.

Bluedriver 07-01-2019 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2845955)
Lol you got the wrong guy. I’m a slacker when it comes to training just know my calls and procedures and which letter they are using for the spv and I call it a day.

But yes during my last training event watched a new hire go on about how many times a light would flash or something like that as the instructor was like WTF.

Was hoping it was you!

CaptCoolHand 07-02-2019 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2846205)
This will probably get you started. It's a little lite on the studying and memorizing, but should get you at least a 70% or better.

I would just add that you should also memorize the FCOM manuals, all volumes and memorize the QRH. Some say you should also make flash cards with all the OPS-SPECS, but I think you could/might pass without doing that.

The OSV (opsspec validation) is no longer multiple choice. Just a heads up. The POI didn’t like all the gouge floating around.

nuball5 07-02-2019 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2846488)
The OSV (opsspec validation) is no longer multiple choice. Just a heads up. The POI didn’t like all the gouge floating around.

Operation validation (OPV) you mean? Unless they call it different now.

capt707 07-02-2019 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2846488)
The OSV (opsspec validation) is no longer multiple choice. Just a heads up. The POI didn’t like all the gouge floating around.

Is that for initial only or for recurrent? That must have changed very recently then...

CaptCoolHand 07-02-2019 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 2846500)
Operation validation (OPV) you mean? Unless they call it different now.

no no... totally different. Lots of changes lately, hard to keep track.

3585 has also come back too. Need to be able to identify all usable runways and mins.
It was in 365... I think. maybe an email. maybe.

360KIAS 07-02-2019 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 2846500)
Operation validation (OPV) you mean? Unless they call it different now.

There is no longer an OPV during CQT. It consists of SPV knowledge proficiency (about 48 questions come from a data bank of questions vs a particular set of questions we used to memorize) as well as QDL multiple choice questions.

jamesholzhauer 07-02-2019 08:29 AM

A lot of you guys need to get your sarcasm detectors fixed. Good lord.

nuball5 07-02-2019 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by 360KIAS (Post 2846545)
There is no longer an OPV during CQT. It consists of SPV knowledge proficiency (about 48 questions come from a data bank of questions vs a particular set of questions we used to memorize) as well as QDL multiple choice questions.

Ughhhh....the questions referencing the QDLs is the OPV.

CaptCoolHand 07-02-2019 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by 360KIAS (Post 2846545)
There is no longer an OPV during CQT. It consists of SPV knowledge proficiency (about 48 questions come from a data bank of questions vs a particular set of questions we used to memorize) as well as QDL multiple choice questions.

I don’t think that’s correct. start studying for the CQT, ASAP, cause a failed OPV could make you MIA from the OSC. I’d also make for sure you now how the angle of the dangle is inversely proportionate to the mass of the ass.

nuball5 07-02-2019 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2846540)
no no... totally different. Lots of changes lately, hard to keep track.

3585 has also come back too. Need to be able to identify all usable runways and mins.
It was in 365... I think. maybe an email. maybe.

They also using FCOM Vol 2 for SPV questions?

Speedbird2263 07-02-2019 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2846558)
I don’t think that’s correct. start studying for the CQT, ASAP, cause a failed OPV could make you MIA from the OSC. I’d also make for sure you now how the angle of the dangle is inversely proportionate to the mass of the ass.

Standing Ovation :D

CaptCoolHand 07-02-2019 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 2846559)
They also using FCOM Vol 2 for SPV questions?

Um....

*******it. I can’t. 🤣

Just disregard my last three or four posts here.

JB training is hands down the easiest cycle you’ll ever do if you know how to fly a plane and program a DVR. Show up learn what you’re told to learn and relax.
Everything for recurrent is in comply. Limitations memory items QDL junk. Study for checkride in security training like everyone else. Back to the line with you. If you fail bluejet training you’re in a special club.

I remember spending lots of time drinking beer and learning flows.... or was it flows and beer? Flowing beer. That’s it.

360KIAS 07-02-2019 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2846564)
Um....

*******it. I can’t. 🤣

Just disregard my last three or four posts here.

JB training is hands down the easiest cycle you’ll ever do if you know how to fly a plane and program a DVR. Show up learn what you’re told to learn and relax.
Everything for recurrent is in comply. Limitations memory items QDL junk. Study for checkride in security training like everyone else. Back to the line with you. If you fail bluejet training you’re in a special club.

I remember spending lots of time drinking beer and learning flows.... or was it flows and beer? Flowing beer. That’s it.

Ahhh, finally. Just the fax, ma'am!!

CaptCoolHand 07-02-2019 09:04 AM

Well, in my defense I’m 6 weeks into a bum leg with 4weeks to go. I’m board and the internet is full of easy entertainment.

To the OP, don’t take it to seriously. There’s really nothing to prep for. They’ll teach you what they want you to know. The bucket can only hold so many frogs.

360KIAS 07-02-2019 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2846571)
Well, in my defense I’m 6 weeks into a bum leg with 4weeks to go. I’m board and the internet is full of easy entertainment.

To the OP, don’t take it to seriously. There’s really nothing to prep for. They’ll teach you what they want you to know. The bucket can only hold so many frogs.

Sorry to hear that man. Fingers crossed for a smooth recovery.

Oh, and try not to be such a board. Being bored is better. Now that pride month is behind us, that is.

nuball5 07-02-2019 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2846564)
Um....

*******it. I can’t. 🤣

Just disregard my last three or four posts here.

JB training is hands down the easiest cycle you’ll ever do if you know how to fly a plane and program a DVR. Show up learn what you’re told to learn and relax.
Everything for recurrent is in comply. Limitations memory items QDL junk. Study for checkride in security training like everyone else. Back to the line with you. If you fail bluejet training you’re in a special club.

I remember spending lots of time drinking beer and learning flows.... or was it flows and beer? Flowing beer. That’s it.

Haha thanks....took me awhile to catch on, but the fcom 2 post was a joke.

localizer 07-02-2019 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand (Post 2846564)
Um....

*******it. I can’t. 🤣

Just disregard my last three or four posts here.

JB training is hands down the easiest cycle you’ll ever do if you know how to fly a plane and program a DVR. Show up learn what you’re told to learn and relax.
Everything for recurrent is in comply. Limitations memory items QDL junk. Study for checkride in security training like everyone else. Back to the line with you. If you fail bluejet training you’re in a special club.

I remember spending lots of time drinking beer and learning flows.... or was it flows and beer? Flowing beer. That’s it.


QDL?

Also, are the FTDs nice touchscreens? How is it set up?

nuball5 07-02-2019 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by localizer (Post 2846655)
QDL?

Also, are the FTDs nice touchscreens? How is it set up?

Just go to training....it’s all going to be fine.

CaptCoolHand 07-02-2019 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by localizer (Post 2846655)
QDL?

Also, are the FTDs nice touchscreens? How is it set up?

Seriously. QDL is not your problem. Just do what they tell you.

FTDs suck. Strictly there for procedure. Flys like crap.

Bigapplepilot 07-02-2019 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Joachim (Post 2845635)
I’ll never forget the first OE lesson I did with a European carrier. I’m sitting in a wide body for the first time, Boeing for the first time, in Europe for the first time, under EASA regulations on a waiver, and the training Captain keeps barking: why don’t you know this, why don’t you know that, this is ridiculous, did you not study!?! My fellow (European) trainees showed up with pages of notes and here I was with my “just relax it will be fine” attitude...

Different world for sure!

Did you pass? Are they requiring you too get your EASA ATPL? That’s pretty cool that your flying for a European Carrier.

jamesholzhauer 07-02-2019 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by localizer (Post 2846655)
QDL?

Also, are the FTDs nice touchscreens? How is it set up?

When is your class date? Asking for a friend.

SmitteyB 07-02-2019 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by 360KIAS (Post 2846570)
Just the fax, ma'am!!

Classic.



Filler.


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