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scudrunner13 10-14-2019 06:28 PM

Planning the first few years
 
Gents,

I have posted on here recently inquiring about information as a new hire for JetBlue and I genuinely appreciate everyone’s help. There have been other forum discussions regarding individuals pay, compensation packages, W2’s, etc. and I do agree with those that find that discussion tacky and a bit much, so before I get torn apart, that is not what this post is about.

As someone who is considering a career change or entering the 121 world for the first time or even to help others considering JetBlue, I believe it is important to get a consensus on compensation expectation for the first few years; especially for those with families. With the information that I have gathered so far, below what I have calculated out. For anyone new on property (4-5 years or less), can you please verify the accuracy.

Training = 6-8 weeks approx. $1200/month
Training pay upon completion of training = 80hrs/month at $88/hr

Year 1 Gross = $85,000 - $102,000 gross depending on length of reserve. Can one count on $5000-$5500 NET per month?

Year 2 Gross = E190 between $115,000 - $140,000 (Average 95 -120 credit/month)
A320 between $125,000 - $160,000 (dependent on reserve times)

Year 3 Gross = A320 between $165,000 - $190,000 (Average 85-110 credit/month)

401(k) – 15% until 2021, then 16% - direct contribution.

Profit sharing – minimal

Current Reserve Times, obviously changes monthly, but a good average would be appreciated.

BOS 190 = ?
BOS 320 = ?
JFK 190 = ?
JFK 320 = ?
MCO 190 = ?
MCO 320 = ?
FLL 190 = ?
FLL 320 = ?

Again, I am NOT looking for anyone to share their personal information or post their earnings, but a verification or correction of the accuracy of the information above and anything else that would be important for a new hire to know would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!

SaintNick 10-14-2019 06:30 PM

Those are pretty high credit times per month. I’d plan on 75-85 credit per month unless you are willing to pick up extra vda rsa etc

scudrunner13 10-14-2019 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 2904970)
Those are pretty high credit times per month. I’d plan on 75-85 credit per month unless you are willing to pick up extra vda rsa etc

I definitely plan on picking up as much extra as needed each month as I will be living in base.

nuball5 10-14-2019 07:12 PM

It really all depends whether or not you’ll live in base. That’ll afford you the ability to be close to domicile when they call VDA/RSAs when the weather hits. The premium system will be changing soon, so we’ll see how things change. There’s always a big difference in your monthly credit during the summer months and the slow months....unless you’re maybe a 190 CA, then it’s a free for all it seems.

PotatoChip 10-15-2019 03:55 AM

Those credit hours are pipe dreams for new hires. Even 2-3. It’s possible, but ALV is like 83 hours. I’d work with that assumption.
First year net/month closer to $6k.

scudrunner13 10-15-2019 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 2905152)
Those credit hours are pipe dreams for new hires. Even 2-3. It’s possible, but ALV is like 83 hours. I’d work with that assumption.
First year net/month closer to $6k.


Thank you. Even year 2 on the 190, a 90-110/hr month is not likely?

CaptCoolHand 10-15-2019 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 2905161)
Thank you. Even year 2 on the 190, a 90-110/hr month is not likely?

Unless you live and die by the FLICA. plan on 75-85credit.

It’s possible. But likely not sustainable.

PotatoChip 10-15-2019 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 2905161)
Thank you. Even year 2 on the 190, a 90-110/hr month is not likely?

I don’t fly the 190 so I can’t say.
That said, it’s foolish to assume you’d credit that for any financial planning. The ability to pick up additional flying could change at any time due to staffing levels, marketing/fleet mix, or the drawing down of 190 flying. It’s dynamic and out of our control. It’s likely one could in summer, living in base.

nuball5 10-15-2019 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by scudrunner13 (Post 2905161)
Thank you. Even year 2 on the 190, a 90-110/hr month is not likely?

Living in base, that range would be easy if you want to work. By year 2 or 3 you should be able to hold 1&2 days...which usually allows you to credit more on the 190 with the combination of how the weather/irops effects the 190 trips.

scudrunner13 10-15-2019 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 2905193)
Living in base, that range would be easy if you want to work. By year 2 or 3 you should be able to hold 1&2 days...which usually allows you to credit more on the 190 with the combination of how the weather/irops effects the 190 trips.

Thank you. I will be in base and dont mind flying extra to meet that credit criteria. I’ve been hearing $130-$150K is an average range on the 190 for year 2, any truth to this?


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