B6 Profit Sharing
 

We got a passion email. I had a dream that I paid off my wife's car with it then took her to Europe.

Emails are for JB pilots.

Cash money is for major airline pilots.

Maybe someday JB will be a major airline career destination.

Until then, emails.

Because Values.

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your sacrifices don’t go un-noticed just un-rewarded

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after last years lacking profit sharing it’s not even on my radar any more. It’s the new norm, unless the NC does something different then round 1 we will never se it again.

7:23 PM
SEA
Seattle, WA (SEA)

Flight number
207

10:02 PM
LGB
Long Beach, CA (LGB)

2h 39m
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Maybe our profit sharing contributes to the fine imposed at LGB? So now we're scheduling into the curfew? Did we hire Rob again?

(poor format- a SEA-LGB flight in APR)

Just screwing with the LGB slot system? Scheduling a flight after 10pm is guaranteed to require them to revoke slots they just gave out:

https://lbpost.com/news/more-supplem...-beach-airport

oh do tell!

Quoting HJB when they take down comments about profit sharing or lack thereof.

Ah yes the censorship of the minions.

ha sooooo JetBlue.

now that’s actually funny

I gotta say, the convoluted way they developed this formula in order to not share any of the record profits is what doesn’t sit well. And then all the ‘atta boy’ emails. It feels down right patronizing at times. Now basically making GPU usage mandatory on all turns in the FOM. I mean, do they not realize how much more the pilots would make them if they only spread some of that pie around? I don’t get it. At least at the regionals, you knew where you stood. Management would kick you in the teeth and tell you to get back to work.

Might not matter for much longer...

https://paxex.aero/2020/01/jetblue-l...ocus-city-cut/

i can’t believe that they don’t realize that. I run the apu pretty much every turn for the whole time unless I want to go inside. The temperature is never good enough to
keep the plane comfortable is my answer if ever questioned.

that guy writes like a college kid.

Says the guy who starts a sentence with a lower case letter....

that guy isn’t trying to be a journalist.

I knew someone would say that. I’m not holding myself out as a professional writer.

Or maybe you are the writer. Lol

I just don't get how they think we're getting hitting numbers with no profit sharing and no west coast base

Correction. Im past my curfew to the LGB getting closed.

so I haven't been paying much attention... it's already been calculated that we will get $0 each for profit sharing for 2019? or there is still more calculation to come and it will be a tiny bit more than $0?

We haven’t seen the 4Q numbers yet so we don’t know, but it won’t be much, if anything at all.

$500 bonus check in the mail.

And a profit sharing task force in 2021...so we’ve got that going for us. Which is nice.

$500 check with a side of condescension and manipulation in a long-winded email.

Your NC "negotiated" (accepted the current formula) and "codified" it, and 74% of you agreed to it. Enjoy your $500!

Its just not that simple. Don't let "leadership" off the hook so easily, they told the NC that they would NEVER give pilots a better profit sharing plan than the rest of the company, period.

The point of profit sharing, from the management side, is getting employee buy-in. It’s something that they pay for, something they purchase. If Delta decided they were done with that model tomorrow, they have 1000 accountants ready to hide the profits from their own formula in a perfectly legal way.

Your anger may be misdirected, in this instance. Jetblue management doesn’t care about your buy-in, and your union can’t make them care.

Fly the FOM and FARs. It’s the only thing you can do.

I always two engine taxi for safety reasons. And for passenger comfort the apu is on every turn.

This. JB couldn’t care less about their product and couldn’t care less about their employees. It is such a stark difference with America’s most successful airline currently.

I mean they did just raise their bag fee to 40 a bag. They don’t care at all.

Bingo. This was a "leadership" decision, and there was no amount of union feet stomping that was going to change it.

The pilot group could have voted the CBA down, but that was NEVER going to happen on the first CBA and even if the pilots had voted it down, I would bet my house that profit sharing wouldn't have been one of the things "leadership" would have been willing to revisit, for pure political/optical reasons.

Happy Profit Sharing day!

you mean NOT Sharing Day....

don blue gloves
do standups
SET
hang around and say goodbye
preserve the culture

Sure. Ok. Message received.

You guys don't get any PS, nothing at all? What does the email say for this year?

It says we don’t get profit sharing.

Mgmt has continually changed the PS formula over the years to make sure it stays de minimus. We had decent payouts in 2015-16 and then mgmt changed the formula again to ensure that wouldn't happen any longer.

Historic JB profit sharing payouts:

2005: 0%
2006: 0.69%
2007: 0%
2008: 0%
2009: 0%
2010: 0.02%
2011: 0%
2012: 0.42%
2013: 1.59%
2014: 3.02%
2015: 15.87
2016: 16.35%
2017: 1.9%
2018: 0.2%
2019: 0%

Because Values.