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Roy Biggins 04-01-2020 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3019595)
The last thing I am trying to be is an "APC hero". Im just saying the company is following the CBA. And they are doing that so that they can furlough per the CBA. Again, my opinion.
And I hope I'm wrong.

I get it man. Emotions are running high...for all of us. If you asked me 2 weeks ago, I was certain we’d be looking at a furlough in the not too distant future; however, today I don’t believe a furlough is going to happen here for a number of reasons. We, as a company, just need to tighten up, and I believe we’ll be alright.

feltf4 04-01-2020 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 3019600)
High horse? Felt why are you giving concessions? You don't get it. We have a contract. They have plenty of money they can save within the confines of this contract and running more efficiently. This contract was smartly built with good times and bad times in mind. How about you just fly airplanes and not give away the farm....for nothing...

concessions? Did you read section 23 bub?

Bluedriver 04-01-2020 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 3019527)
Maybe credit caps to start. Amazing how many VDAS and prem trips went out last month. People crediting over 150 hours while reserves stayed at home.

I wonder why we skipped over that part of whatever section 23 is, and maybe whatever rsv periods means and maybe whatever that part time award thing means.

So yeah they are stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. They are not doing EVERYTHING they can to save money. It also says something about it not being limited to whatever section 23 is.

So maybe stop the individual greed. 0 hours/50 hours/75 hours. Open time is blocked or not blocked but everyone is capped at 75 hours. No VDA no Prem. 35 hours part time lines.

So either our cash flow problem hasn’t been that dire or maybe we all should expect to be on the street.

You seem worried. I don't think, if it's needed, that these were the last solutions or the last LOA.

PLEASE REMAIN CALM.

WhistlePig 04-01-2020 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 3019560)
Thats why I’m afraid that a Jetblue pilot furloughed will be spending a long time on the sidelines.

If anyone is picking up extra flying while pilots are on the street, they have a very punchable face.

RiddleEagle18 04-01-2020 10:38 AM

Loa 9
 
The list in section 23 isn’t in order. It’s basically suggestions and actually leaves more options available than just what’s written.

We aren’t even close to furloughs yet. Reduced alv and credit caps next if they are even needed.

The company is still thinking this all ends by late summer and demand returns to a reasonable level.


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Phil Laschio 04-01-2020 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3019797)
The list in section 23 isn’t in order. It’s basically suggestions and actually leaves more options available than just what’s written.

We aren’t even close to furloughs yet. Reduced alv and credit caps next if they are even needed.

The company is still thinking this all ends by late summer and demand returns to a reasonable level.


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I really wanted the E190 CA VIL for April but they only awarded 5. My gut vibe said this thing peaks and stalls by the end of April and we’re scaling back up after that. Big issue is going to be commuting in May it seems. I don’t want to have to show 2 days early. Guess I’ll bid the May VIL but I’m bottom 25% so unlikely to get it.

Bozo the pilot 04-01-2020 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Phil Laschio (Post 3019830)
I really wanted the E190 CA VIL for April but they only awarded 5. My gut vibe said this thing peaks and stalls by the end of April and we’re scaling back up after that. Big issue is going to be commuting in May it seems. I don’t want to have to show 2 days early. Guess I’ll bid the May VIL but I’m bottom 25% so unlikely to get it.

May is going to be awesome. i can just feel it...:)

Xtreme87 04-01-2020 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by Phil Laschio (Post 3019830)
I really wanted the E190 CA VIL for April but they only awarded 5. My gut vibe said this thing peaks and stalls by the end of April and we’re scaling back up after that. Big issue is going to be commuting in May it seems. I don’t want to have to show 2 days early. Guess I’ll bid the May VIL but I’m bottom 25% so unlikely to get it.

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SaintNick 04-01-2020 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by WhistlePig (Post 3019796)
If anyone is picking up extra flying while pilots are on the street, they have a very punchable face.

this can’t be said enough.

Descendto450 04-01-2020 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by feltf4 (Post 3019527)
Maybe credit caps to start. Amazing how many VDAS and prem trips went out last month. People crediting over 150 hours while reserves stayed at home.

I wonder why we skipped over that part of whatever section 23 is, and maybe whatever rsv periods means and maybe whatever that part time award thing means.

So yeah they are stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. They are not doing EVERYTHING they can to save money. It also says something about it not being limited to whatever section 23 is.

So maybe stop the individual greed. 0 hours/50 hours/75 hours. Open time is blocked or not blocked but everyone is capped at 75 hours. No VDA no Prem. 35 hours part time lines.

So either our cash flow problem hasn’t been that dire or maybe we all should expect to be on the street.

I am sure it’s all being vetted through LSC. It’s all negotiable with ALPA and I am sure we haven’t seen the last LOA in regards to this pandemic. Credit caps wouldn’t be enough to make a big difference, just like early retirements won’t. Without bookings coming back in May/June we will all have to start dusting off our resumes. Until then credit all you can put money in the bank and try not to stress out too much.


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