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Old 02-18-2021 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Gotta make sure the questions and answers are worded to illicit the correct response.

Tell me I’m wrong.

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​​​​​​They can ask any way they want, the answer is still going to be Profit Sharing and more international ASM restrictions on flights within the range of current and FUTURE aircraft deliveries.
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Old 02-18-2021 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
​​​​​​They can ask any way they want, the answer is still going to be Profit Sharing and more international ASM restrictions on flights within the range of current and FUTURE aircraft deliveries.
and fc to fc (current cities and whatever fc is added in future, so they can’t change the term)
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Old 02-18-2021 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
and fc to fc (current cities and whatever fc is added in future, so they can’t change the term)
​​​​​​Agree, they need to lock down and codify the current FCs and a defined way to specify a new one, maybe flights per day trigger.

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Old 02-18-2021 | 05:42 AM
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I believe the MGIA is also a violation. And it’s already signed and in place ready to go. So even if they don’t do the FC to FC and international stuff they wanted, they are still in violation.

MGIA detailshttps://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...growthince.htm
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Old 02-18-2021 | 05:47 AM
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Good points. During the ALPA call-in show last week one astute pilot asked how we decide what the FCs are and can the company just change them?

One person answered that FCs are listed in the CBA. The CBA does contain a definition -
“Focus City: Any city publicly identified as such by the Company or any city where Pilots are Based.”

But I have not found any such list of focus cities in the CBA. So this may be a loophole that the MEC/NC has not discovered yet.
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Old 02-18-2021 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by copy
I believe the MGIA is also a violation. And it’s already signed and in place ready to go. So even if they don’t do the FC to FC and international stuff they wanted, they are still in violation.

MGIA detailshttps://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/d...growthince.htm
I think that's the component of the NEA that pushed it into a JV according CBA, although it's still a codeshare according to the govt.
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Old 02-18-2021 | 07:19 AM
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So additional demand exists for extra weekend flights from jfk-Caribbean.

Guess who’s gonna fly them?

I was told it didn’t make sense for us to just let AA fly them. “They wouldn’t do that”


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Old 02-18-2021 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by todd1200
I think that's the component of the NEA that pushed it into a JV according CBA, although it's still a codeshare according to the govt.
Just to remind everyone lest they forget, whether it is a codeshare or JV this was all made possible by LOA 12, that got this camels nose into tent.
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Old 02-18-2021 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Desdi
Just to remind everyone lest they forget, whether it is a codeshare or JV this was all made possible by LOA 12, that got this camels nose into tent.
no. JV/revenue share was NOT authorized by LOA 12. Codeshare was. Not any sort of revenue share, including the MGIA.
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Old 02-18-2021 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Descendto450
Actually that’s exactly how arbitration works.. Please educate yourself.. Ive been in the room for arbitration have you?? If it gets to arbitration current economic conditions will have influence on a arbitrators decision. If it gets there we will be lucky to get the gains or equivalent under the current economic conditions.. I hope it doesn’t get there and it probably won’t. My past experiences don’t make me particular confident in a good outcome for us, I also recognize that this is far from over.
I have. You misrepresented what an arbitrator can and cannot do outside of Section 6.
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