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hyperboy 09-20-2021 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3297642)
same as the president of the USA. But both still try and push exactly what they want.


You can blame any president you want they can vote with a veto I guess? House of the People (all 435 of them) and the Senate have the power............It's sure fun blaming the one without the vote though?

SaintNick 09-20-2021 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 3297661)
You can blame any president you want they can vote with a veto I guess? House of the People (all 435 of them) and the Senate have the power............It's sure fun blaming the one without the vote though?

loa 12/13 fall squarely on the mec shoulders. Without him approving them or pushing for them nothing would have happened.

BeatNavy 09-20-2021 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 3297661)
You can blame any president you want they can vote with a veto I guess? House of the People (all 435 of them) and the Senate have the power............It's sure fun blaming the one without the vote though?

https://www.federalregister.gov/pres...joe-biden/2021

I think presidents on both sides of the aisle do a lot more legislating than you a give them credit for, and therefore do actually have a vote. That’s not how the government was designed, but how it has morphed.

Back to our union, in theory, the MEC works for the LECs and the LECs have the voting power. Just like our government, it doesn’t always work as designed. Occasionally a tyrant and his henchmen get in power. And when it’s no longer working as it’s supposed to, people get frustrated because they don’t want to be associated with, or work/volunteer for, a person/system that’s off the rails. For example: the Chris kenney clown show. How many committee leaders bailed in the last 6 months? This is the most dysfunctional and misdirected union I’ve ever seen. Poor leadership is to blame. Hopefully step 1 (these LEC recall efforts) is fruitful. We need step 1 to be a success to get this ship back on course.

todd1200 09-20-2021 08:39 AM

Zero CAs running for LEC rep in BOS? One FO?

Roy Biggins 09-20-2021 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by todd1200 (Post 3297737)
Zero CAs running for LEC rep in BOS? One FO?

Therein lies the problem.

SaintNick 09-20-2021 09:53 AM

What entails being a lec officer? Just wondering from the outside looking in.

V2500 09-21-2021 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 3297685)
https://www.federalregister.gov/pres...joe-biden/2021

I think presidents on both sides of the aisle do a lot more legislating than you a give them credit for, and therefore do actually have a vote. That’s not how the government was designed, but how it has morphed.

Back to our union, in theory, the MEC works for the LECs and the LECs have the voting power. Just like our government, it doesn’t always work as designed. Occasionally a tyrant and his henchmen get in power. And when it’s no longer working as it’s supposed to, people get frustrated because they don’t want to be associated with, or work/volunteer for, a person/system that’s off the rails. For example: the Chris kenney clown show. How many committee leaders bailed in the last 6 months? This is the most dysfunctional and misdirected union I’ve ever seen. Poor leadership is to blame. Hopefully step 1 (these LEC recall efforts) is fruitful. We need step 1 to be a success to get this ship back on course.

The majority of the reps who re-elected him turned a blind eye to this. That’s a big problem.

capt707 09-21-2021 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3297765)
What entails being a lec officer? Just wondering from the outside looking in.

Not being a CK bobblehead is a start! A LEC rep should be listening and representing ALL pilots, not what CK thinks is best for him or company! Your LEC is the interface between the membership and the MEC.

SaintNick 09-21-2021 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by capt707 (Post 3298058)
Not being a CK bobblehead is a start! A LEC rep should be listening and representing ALL pilots, not what CK thinks is best for him or company! Your LEC is the interface between the membership and the MEC.

A buddy I was talking to just didn’t know the time required.

todd1200 09-21-2021 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3298071)
A buddy I was talking to just didn’t know the time required.

I’d imagine being an LEC rep requires a significant investment of personal time. You’re representing pilots at disciplinary hearings, responding to texts & phone calls at all hours, etc.

It’s probably like the old saying, “If you have to ask, you can’t afford it.”


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