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KNOTAPILOT 09-15-2021 03:46 PM

Another Term?
 
Can anyone please answer how can we allow the same guy willing to sell us out in the last LOA get re-elected just like that? No questions asked? Doesn’t feel great knowing it’ll be the same bunch leading us after seeing them push the last LOA down our throats. So much for scope. Ask for other things and stop worrying about it since we see how easy it is to give up. I appreciate the time every union personnel takes but I’m disappointed in the election to say the least.

panpanpan 09-15-2021 03:56 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong, but if the pilot group voted in the last LOA, the furlough protection would have already been about to run out…

BeatNavy 09-15-2021 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by KNOTAPILOT (Post 3295633)
Can anyone please answer how can we allow the same guy willing to sell us out in the last LOA get re-elected just like that? No questions asked? Doesn’t feel great knowing it’ll be the same bunch leading us after seeing them push the last LOA down our throats. So much for scope. Ask for other things and stop worrying about it since we see how easy it is to give up. I appreciate the time every union personnel takes but I’m disappointed in the election to say the least.

Let your reps know how you feel, and if you’re in FLL or BOS…participate in the upcoming recall efforts. We currently have the worst MEC/LECs I’ve ever seen in the airline business. CK said yesterday he doesn’t care what the pilot group thinks of him because he knows he had the votes from enough of the 14 who matter. If this were a Democratic election he probably would have received less than 20% of the votes. He’s horrible and in bed with management. His interests are aligned with the company’s. LOA13 and the sales job with the unified voice with the company is all the evidence you need for that. Oh, and another rep said yesterday the only reason LOA13 didn’t pass is because they didn’t have the road shows to sell it. Disgusting.

SaintNick 09-15-2021 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 3295643)
Let your reps know how you feel, and if you’re in FLL or BOS…participate in the upcoming recall efforts. We currently have the worst MEC/LECs I’ve ever seen in the airline business. CK said yesterday he doesn’t care what the pilot group thinks of him because he knows he had the votes from enough of the 14 who matter. If this were a Democratic election he probably would have received less than 20% of the votes. He’s horrible and in bed with management. His interests are aligned with the company’s. LOA13 and the sales job with the unified voice with the company is all the evidence you need for that. Oh, and another rep said yesterday the only reason LOA13 didn’t pass is because they didn’t have the road shows to sell it. Disgusting.

did he actually say that?!
and yes. He is a terrible mec and needs to
get voted out. That will only happen by getting the current lec out

Roy Biggins 09-15-2021 05:04 PM

Disappointed in the results would be an understatement. We’re stuck with this a$$ clown for another 2 years. The 191 is solid. It’s the rest of y’all that need to get rid of those reps.

SaintNick 09-15-2021 05:11 PM

Honest question. Can we as the pilots recall the mec and force a democratic election?

feltf4 09-15-2021 05:13 PM

What does a secretary treasurer do? Can we just get rid of that position?

RiddleEagle18 09-16-2021 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by SaintNick (Post 3295662)
Honest question. Can we as the pilots recall the mec and force a democratic election?


No. It you can recall your lec! Then the lec can recall the mec.


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Desdi 09-16-2021 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by panpanpan (Post 3295636)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if the pilot group voted in the last LOA, the furlough protection would have already been about to run out…

Yes and additionally the 2% yearly step they were offering is traditionally seen in the signing bonus of the subsequent CBA.

panpanpan 09-16-2021 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Desdi (Post 3296148)
Yes and additionally the 2% yearly step they were offering is traditionally seen in the signing bonus of the subsequent CBA.


2% raise when inflation is running north of 6%…


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