Originally Posted by Climbto450 (Post 3373133)

The grid is the worst issue I personally have. We need a seriously better process in CBA 2.0. It was one of my 3 biggest issues on my ALPA survey. Vacation/PTO accrual and reassignment protections where my other two. Maybe if dependability went to the way side (not that they really enforce it) I wouldn't care about the grid so much.

Originally Posted by CRJdriver2017 (Post 3392425)

I’m in the same situation right now. Frontier surprisingly invited me for an interview back in March and got offered into the hiring pool. No class date yet but my background stuff is pending. Then Jetblue sent me a phase 1 invite yesterday. Basically I’m unclear as to where I will be long term but I don’t look down on ULCC carriers like some. I’m a FL guy, that’s where my family is and that’s where I wanna end up. Pay seems slightly higher at jetblue but I’m anticipating new rates with the pending merger and even so without. FL bases are junior with good movement and upgrade times. Jetblue seems like it will be a while for FL and then really slow progression. Jetblue has a better name and reputation.

Originally Posted by avi8orco (Post 3392486)

Frontier/Spirit is likely going to get you in FL quicker and faster QOL. Maybe a FLL blue can chime in but in Orlando to upgrade here at blue is over 9 years on the 190 which will soon go away. The bus left seat in Orlando may as well be impossible and once the 190 goes away you may as well forget it exists once all is said and done. Jetblue pretends Orlando doesn’t exist and there is nowhere in the country but NY. Basically they think it’s impossible to make money there even though Spirit/Frontier both ran us over like a dump truck expanding.

Originally Posted by Whica Flore (Post 3392534)

Exactly. ULCCs make money in MCO. If MCO made the kind of money our other bases do then it would be bigger. Its a simple fact not trying to antagonize.


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Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3392537)

I would add, or possibly counter, that JB seeks to build out bases with limited gates/slots etc... I believe they view Orlando as important to the long term plan, but presently feel no pressure to obtain resources because the resources there haven't been that limited. To say it another way, I think they feel like they can always grow MCO NEXT year... The new terminal is the exception however. But that sorta counters both our arguments.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3392537)

I would add, or possibly counter, that JB seeks to build out bases with limited gates/slots etc... I believe they view Orlando as important to the long term plan, but presently feel no pressure to obtain resources because the resources there haven't been that limited. To say it another way, I think they feel like they can always grow MCO NEXT year... The new terminal is the exception however. But that sorta counters both our arguments.

Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 3392600)

Scott said multiple times on pocket sessions before he bailed that yields in MCO are garbage with our cost structure with so much ULCC competition. He didn’t seem very optimistic about MCO growing. Dave Clark seemed a little more positive on it on the last pocket session though. Regardless, there’s always schoolhouse / adjunct jobs available for guys who want to be in MCO and not commute.

Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 3392600)

Scott said multiple times on pocket sessions before he bailed that yields in MCO are garbage with our cost structure with so much ULCC competition. He didn’t seem very optimistic about MCO growing. Dave Clark seemed a little more positive on it on the last pocket session though. Regardless, there’s always schoolhouse / adjunct jobs available for guys who want to be in MCO and not commute.

Originally Posted by CRJdriver2017 (Post 3392425)

I’m in the same situation right now. Frontier surprisingly invited me for an interview back in March and got offered into the hiring pool. No class date yet but my background stuff is pending. Then Jetblue sent me a phase 1 invite yesterday. Basically I’m unclear as to where I will be long term but I don’t look down on ULCC carriers like some. I’m a FL guy, that’s where my family is and that’s where I wanna end up. Pay seems slightly higher at jetblue but I’m anticipating new rates with the pending merger and even so without. FL bases are junior with good movement and upgrade times. Jetblue seems like it will be a while for FL and then really slow progression. Jetblue has a better name and reputation.