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Bluedriver 02-21-2023 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by papmik (Post 3595441)
Fkng 1k bonus after tax wtf , I don’t know what the subject is but Im sure this applies , go somewhere else where you don’t get mistreated for being a new hire, that’s the culture here. And yeah nobody talking about this yet but this guys about to get raped during the merge, we all know it and no one seems to care, that’s the culture . Systematically late and systematically submissive. Bye

This guys kidding right?

Forward lav 02-21-2023 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by papmik (Post 3595441)
Fkng 1k bonus after tax wtf , I don’t know what the subject is but Im sure this applies , go somewhere else where you don’t get mistreated for being a new hire, that’s the culture here. And yeah nobody talking about this yet but this guys about to get raped during the merge, we all know it and no one seems to care, that’s the culture . Systematically late and systematically submissive. Bye

I think it was $1000 too much.

Climbto450 02-21-2023 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by Forward lav (Post 3595488)
I think it was $1000 too much.

Anywhere is it would have been zero..

Boomer 02-21-2023 05:29 AM

PSA and Envoy will give you ten grand just to interview.

Don’t come to JetBlue because you want to get rich. Come to JetBlue because you want to live in Boston or NYC.

papmik 02-21-2023 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Steelers (Post 3595471)
The entitlement of 1 year pilots is amusing.

Asking to be treated equally? Is that entitlement?
If you are on the right seat you and I do the exact same job , and by the way I’m not saying you deserve less I’m saying I deserve the same. That’s what pay rates are for, to reward longevity, a one time bonus is a complete different tool with a complete different objective but I don’t expect any of you to understand that. Thank you all for proving my point once again,is not about the money, is about the ZERO comradery culture and the lack of self worth that shows on most of your comments .

papmik 02-21-2023 06:15 PM

The same pilot group that almost crucified a new hire few months ago and put our entire hiring department into question.

Desdi 02-21-2023 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by papmik (Post 3595927)
Asking to be treated equally? Is that entitlement?
If you are on the right seat you and I do the exact same job , and by the way I’m not saying you deserve less I’m saying I deserve the same. That’s what pay rates are for, to reward longevity, a one time bonus is a complete different tool with a complete different objective but I don’t expect any of you to understand that. Thank you all for proving my point once again,is not about the money, is about the ZERO comradery culture and the lack of self worth that shows on most of your comments .

With all due respect if you’ve been in the industry for awhile I’m sure you are aware that the signing “bonus” is traditionally offered to make up for the foregone pay increases between the contract amendable date and the new contract. As such low longevity pilots are typically granted little to nothing in this respect. Ignoring that is what invites the slander of “entitlement”. Additionally still being on probation I’d count you as lucky to get 1k to begin with. Any other carrier at any other time that would not be the case.

KNOTAPILOT 02-22-2023 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by Desdi (Post 3595938)
With all due respect if you’ve been in the industry for awhile I’m sure you are aware that the signing “bonus” is traditionally offered to make up for the foregone pay increases between the contract amendable date and the new contract. As such low longevity pilots are typically granted little to nothing in this respect. Ignoring that is what invites the slander of “entitlement”. Additionally still being on probation I’d count you as lucky to get 1k to begin with. Any other carrier at any other time that would not be the case.


He is probably so young to have much common sense. So he’ll go to another carrier that appreciates him as a new hire. Then he’ll realize there too new hires in probation don’t get much more. In many carriers much less. If you’re letting a long career view get blocked by a probation bonus differential of ten thousand dollars then really you were going to find a reason to leave. There’s plenty here and in other places. BTW look into when you start seniority in AA.

Roy Biggins 02-22-2023 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by papmik (Post 3595934)
The same pilot group that almost crucified a new hire few months ago and put our entire hiring department into question.

Who crucified a new hire? I’m not sure I follow.

Steelers 02-22-2023 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by Roy Biggins (Post 3596066)
Who crucified a new hire? I’m not sure I follow.

I think he is mad pilots spoke out against hiring that felon?


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