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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
(Post 3460715)
The “jetblue wasn’t even around during 9/11” part is what I think he was referring to.
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Holy crap this thread went Full APC in a hurry.
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3460710)
JB needs red-eyes only as the first or last leg... This middle of trip crap has to go.
Really the last, or second to last leg. I'm toast after a redeye for a few days. What kills me is they love to stick 4am wake ups the next day. How are we not having fatigue calls all over the place? These pairings are dangerous and the union has been very quiet. They need to be foot stomping fatigue calls at the very least or doing informational picketing like DALPA did. |
Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
(Post 3460852)
Really the last, or second to last leg. I'm toast after a redeye for a few days. What kills me is they love to stick 4am wake ups the next day. How are we not having fatigue calls all over the place? These pairings are dangerous and the union has been very quiet. They need to be foot stomping fatigue calls at the very least or doing informational picketing like DALPA did.
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
(Post 3460859)
Its honestly due to the Fatigue Committee Chair, SK. IMO he needs to be pulled. I’ve had conversations with him, and he comes across as a management shill. He routinely said, “Well, it’s legal.” As if legal makes it not fatiguing.
And more pilots need to actually call in fatigued. |
Originally Posted by Directautogroup
(Post 3460685)
No red eye turns allowed at Spirit so we bring that to the table...
I have done red eye turns at Spirit. Next time I would suggest you clarify so you don’t sound so flagrant. |
Can’t you guys submit informational fatigue reports? These identify fatiguing pairings even if you didn’t call on fatigued. ASAPs should be considered as well if your fatigue committee is not playing ball.
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Originally Posted by Directautogroup
(Post 3460685)
No red eye turns allowed at Spirit so we bring that to the table...
I’ve done 7 FLL-SAP redeye turns in the last 2 months. Lol. Tell that to the Vegas guys. |
Originally Posted by dualinput
(Post 3460991)
Can’t you guys submit informational fatigue reports? These identify fatiguing pairings even if you didn’t call on fatigued. ASAPs should be considered as well if your fatigue committee is not playing ball.
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Originally Posted by El Peso
(Post 3460693)
What’s wrong with the dynamic with the guy sitting next to me? You’ll need to explain that one.
Lord over the smaller carriers? Dude you’ve got some internal stuff to work out. Inferiority complex or something. I’m simply comparing hard numbers with respect to our contracts. And guess what, after an analysis, I’d take AA current CBA over B6. Even if we didn’t have wide bodies or retirements. And thanks for the well wishes with respect to our ongoing negotiations. We’ll do our best to lead the industry into a new and improved standard with respect to pilot compensation. And please don’t talk about the last 100 years. Your airline didn’t even exist on 9/11 so you have no idea how B6 would’ve weathered the last 100 years of history. |
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