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Cockpit997 07-14-2022 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3460538)
Guys, AA's work rules suck, today. But that is possibly, and likely, one contract away from fixing most or all of those work rule differences. They can fix work rules and pay rates in a few months. Their management also just offered "Delta like(ish) profit sharing. JB's management said profit sharing was a "non-starter, and JB pilot currently don't have a functional profit sharing plan and JB can't change it's narrow-body only, young pilot group and few retirements dynamic anytime soon. And as others have said, the JB balance sheet may not look so good soon. The answer to the guys question isn't clear cut. None of us know how the next 5-10-20 years are gonna go.


Yep…… alll true. Just having fun with the guy in the hat.

Bluedriver 07-14-2022 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Cockpit997 (Post 3460577)
Yep…… alll true. Just having fun with the guy in the hat.

In the hat, now that's funny. Do you think we can get hats in the next contract? Hats now!

El Peso 07-14-2022 10:36 AM

Yes? Only years and position higher than AA is year 1 FO by 4 dollars, and year 11 & 12 CA by 3 & 5 dollars. Literally every other seat and year of service pays higher at AA.

El Peso 07-14-2022 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Cockpit997 (Post 3460507)
Our work rules are better than yours Mr. disconnected airline pilot guy. But the best part is we don’t have $43B in debt. Stick that in your hat and smoke it. 😂

Tell me about those work rules then and let’s see how they stack up. Let’s see your math. Sweeping generalities don’t show anything.

El Peso 07-14-2022 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by stanherman (Post 3460541)
As a prior "Eagle" guy, there's no amount of money on this planet that would ever convince me to work for AMR/AAG or whatever they are ever again.

Good for you. But you do know you never worked for AA right? Like it’s not even the same Ball Park.

Cockpit997 07-14-2022 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3460624)
Tell me about those work rules then and let’s see how they stack up. Let’s see your math. Sweeping generalities don’t show anything.

I won’t do your research for you. I’m sure you’re curious enough to do it yourself.

El Peso 07-14-2022 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Cockpit997 (Post 3460634)
I won’t do your research for you. I’m sure you’re curious enough to do it yourself.

Thats what I thought. Less min day than AA. Lower pay rates except those 3 specific exceptions I mentioned above. Lower min guarantee. Etc etc.

symbian simian 07-14-2022 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Cockpit997 (Post 3460634)
I won’t do your research for you. I’m sure you’re curious enough to do it yourself.


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3460624)
Tell me about those work rules then and let’s see how they stack up. Let’s see your math. Sweeping generalities don’t show anything.

Airline pilot: " our contracts is horrible, can't believe anybody wants to work here."

Also airline pilot:" your contract is horrible, can't believe anybody wants to work there".

Literally 2 letters. How about we all try together to improve it for all of us.....

pilotpayne 07-14-2022 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3460625)
Good for you. But you do know you never worked for AA right? Like it’s not even the same Ball Park.


wow you are really taking this personally

pilotpayne 07-14-2022 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3460636)
Thats what I thought. Less min day than AA. Lower pay rates except those 3 specific exceptions I mentioned above. Lower min guarantee. Etc etc.


great you win AA is AAwsome.


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