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El Peso 07-14-2022 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by Cockpit997 (Post 3460148)
Your work rules are dog 💩. We make more than you in narrow bodies.most pilots won’t transition. And if you’ve crossed the Atlantic you’ll know it’s not worth it.

Gonna need to show your work on that math Mr. discount airline pilot guy.

nuball5 07-14-2022 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3460409)
Gonna need to show your work on that math Mr. discount airline pilot guy.


Didn’t Flyby post the pay rates yesterday? Showing the math is a useless endeavor. There are AA captains that make more than B6 captains and vice versa.

biigD 07-14-2022 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 3460460)
Didn’t Flyby post the pay rates yesterday? Showing the math is a useless endeavor. There are AA captains that make more than B6 captains and vice versa.

Yeah, I think the pay/work rules situation is close enough that it makes more sense to look at it from a BOS seniority and future of the base standpoint. BOS is like our PHX base - I don't think it's going anywhere, but I wouldn't count on any growth either. If we were talking about the NYC base I think AA makes sense, but for BOS there's probably more eventual upside at JetBlue.

Flyby1206 07-14-2022 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3460409)
Gonna need to show your work on that math Mr. discount airline pilot guy.

Here, I even made it pretty this time:

https://i.postimg.cc/65dgt9QX/Jetblue-CApay.png

https://i.postimg.cc/65dgt9QX/Jetblue-CApay.png
https://i.postimg.cc/T3fSPZyW/Jetblue-FOpay.png

https://i.postimg.cc/T3fSPZyW/Jetblue-FOpay.png

Cockpit997 07-14-2022 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3460409)
Gonna need to show your work on that math Mr. discount airline pilot guy.

Our work rules are better than yours Mr. disconnected airline pilot guy. But the best part is we don’t have $43B in debt. Stick that in your hat and smoke it. 😂

MainlineFlyer 07-14-2022 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Cockpit997 (Post 3460507)
Our work rules are better than yours Mr. disconnected airline pilot guy. But the best part is we don’t have $43B in debt. Stick that in your hat and smoke it. 😂


We are about to lever up to the gills to buy NK so I wouldn't act so superior. Our management spent the 2010s buying back stock and blowing cash on tech startups to nowhere while NK had their eye on the ball. Now we are going to eat years of seniority and have a crummy balance sheet for decades, while NK investors will make out like bandits.

But hey, we got a 3% pay bump by selling scope so we can talk ******* to AA pilots about rates for a little while...

As for the original poster. This pilot group loves to work for less. Our upgrades are going to be measured in decades after this merger. Go where there is movement and the pilots have a spine.

pilotpayne 07-14-2022 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Cockpit997 (Post 3460507)
Our work rules are better than yours Mr. disconnected airline pilot guy. But the best part is we don’t have $43B in debt. Stick that in your hat and smoke it. 😂

Not yet anyway

Bluedriver 07-14-2022 08:14 AM

Guys, AA's work rules suck, today. But that is possibly, and likely, one contract away from fixing most or all of those work rule differences. They can fix work rules and pay rates in a few months. Their management also just offered "Delta like(ish) profit sharing. JB's management said profit sharing was a "non-starter, and JB pilot currently don't have a functional profit sharing plan and JB can't change it's narrow-body only, young pilot group and few retirements dynamic anytime soon. And as others have said, the JB balance sheet may not look so good soon. The answer to the guys question isn't clear cut. None of us know how the next 5-10-20 years are gonna go.

stanherman 07-14-2022 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3460538)
Guys, AA's work rules suck, today. But that is possibly, and likely, one contract away from fixing most or all of those work rule differences. They can fix work rules and pay rates in a few months. Their management also just offered "Delta like(ish) profit sharing. JB's management said profit sharing was a "non-starter, and JB pilot currently don't have a functional profit sharing plan and JB can't change it's narrow-body only, young pilot group and few retirements dynamic anytime soon. And as others have said, the JB balance sheet may not look so good soon. The answer to the guys question isn't clear cut. None of us know how the next 5-10-20 years are gonna go.

As a prior "Eagle" guy, there's no amount of money on this planet that would ever convince me to work for AMR/AAG or whatever they are ever again.

Flyby1206 07-14-2022 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by stanherman (Post 3460541)
As a prior "Eagle" guy, there's no amount of money on this planet that would ever convince me to work for AMR/AAG or whatever they are ever again.

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