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Desdi 08-25-2023 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by avi8orco (Post 3688131)
This is done…They’re just throwing random $hit now to see if it sticks. What does it matter if it’s BS that they have no idea what they’re talking about, they’re politicians, SOP.

These are not politicians, this is a private anti-trust group as I understand it. Read the plaintiff list!

Directautogroup 08-25-2023 04:27 PM

Could it be they “forgot” to redact the headline making sentences is because the palintiff
know their case is weak and this is last minute Hail Mary tactics to create buzz that crappy internet journalists run with?

JayRalstonSmith 08-25-2023 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Desdi (Post 3688133)
These are not politicians, this is a private anti-trust group as I understand it. Read the plaintiff list!

Private plaintiffs’ counsel failed to properly redact certain information which, taken out of context, creates a completely inaccurate picture of the facts. We are confident that our merger with Spirit will give a much-needed boost to airline competition in the U.S. and result in more low fares and higher-quality service for customers. We look forward to laying out all of the evidence to support our case this October.”


Update 2: JetBlue shares an additional statement,
Unfortunately, following a filing error by the legal team for a group of consumers that has filed a baseless lawsuit, we are in a position where we need to correct the record.

To be very clear, the claims reported by several media outlets did not reflect facts set out in JetBlue documents. Private plaintiffs represented by the merger class action lawyer, Alioto, in a the court filing laying out their arguments opposing our motion for summary judgment, incorrectly redacted sections of text so that it could be read by cutting and pasting into a new document. As we attempted to clarify yesterday, it is important to understand that the redacted text was content written and produced by Alioto in their own court filing, not redactions to JetBlue internal documents. These redactions were in text where Alioto had outlined, in their own words, their argument to the court, and essentially represents the plaintiff’s “spin” on confidential evidence they have reviewed. It’s no surprise a class action attorney would mispresent the facts in a brief to the court to preserve their case.

The factual evidence, when presented in a full and complete picture, will demonstrate that JetBlue intends for the merger with Spirit to increase competition and help lower fares across the board while also bringing JetBlue’s high-quality and much-loved experience to millions more travels.

RemoveB4flght 08-25-2023 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Desdi (Post 3688133)
These are not politicians, this is a private anti-trust group as I understand it. Read the plaintiff list!

You are correct sir, a quick googling of the plaintiffs shows most of them are travel agents and have been plaintiffs in several other lawsuits, including against the AA/US air merger.

Desdi 08-25-2023 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith (Post 3688169)
Private plaintiffs’ counsel failed to properly redact certain information which, taken out of context, creates a completely inaccurate picture of the facts. We are confident that our merger with Spirit will give a much-needed boost to airline competition in the U.S. and result in more low fares and higher-quality service for customers. We look forward to laying out all of the evidence to support our case this October.”


Update 2: JetBlue shares an additional statement,
Unfortunately, following a filing error by the legal team for a group of consumers that has filed a baseless lawsuit, we are in a position where we need to correct the record.

To be very clear, the claims reported by several media outlets did not reflect facts set out in JetBlue documents. Private plaintiffs represented by the merger class action lawyer, Alioto, in a the court filing laying out their arguments opposing our motion for summary judgment, incorrectly redacted sections of text so that it could be read by cutting and pasting into a new document. As we attempted to clarify yesterday, it is important to understand that the redacted text was content written and produced by Alioto in their own court filing, not redactions to JetBlue internal documents. These redactions were in text where Alioto had outlined, in their own words, their argument to the court, and essentially represents the plaintiff’s “spin” on confidential evidence they have reviewed. It’s no surprise a class action attorney would mispresent the facts in a brief to the court to preserve their case.

The factual evidence, when presented in a full and complete picture, will demonstrate that JetBlue intends for the merger with Spirit to increase competition and help lower fares across the board while also bringing JetBlue’s high-quality and much-loved experience to millions more travels.

I was correcting a previous poster confusing this lawsuit with the DOJ Anti Trust suit against B6…. What’s your point with you copy pasting narritive? All I said is these are not politicians.

11atsomto 08-27-2023 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 3688007)

Biden called out “junk fees” in his address and has called on the house to create legislation against them to protect the consumer, yet his DOJ is working to block a merger which would eliminate most of these fees in the new larger JetBlue.

YES! This why the initial DOJ block has never made sense to me. The Spirit business model of “junk fees” is almost exclusively based upon exploiting the Poor akin to a For- profit -University, the narrative of this DOJ is that it’s some kind of Salvation Army.

Yet it is the current Washington so I’m not suprised, just disappointed

CincoDeMayo 08-28-2023 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3688571)
YES! This why the initial DOJ block has never made sense to me. The Spirit business model of “junk fees” is almost exclusively based upon exploiting the Poor akin to a For- profit -University, the narrative of this DOJ is that it’s some kind of Salvation Army.

Yet it is the current Washington so I’m not suprised, just disappointed

Reminds me how politicians scream about how we need access to ULCC airfare, and then the same politicians will fight to guarantee specific seat pitch on flights. How do you think prices get cheaper, more seats, less room.

nene 08-29-2023 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by 11atsomto (Post 3688571)
YES! This why the initial DOJ block has never made sense to me. The Spirit business model of “junk fees” is almost exclusively based upon exploiting the Poor akin to a For- profit -University, the narrative of this DOJ is that it’s some kind of Salvation Army.

Yet it is the current Washington so I’m not suprised, just disappointed

"REAL" reason DC doesn't like "junk fees"

Fare = FED TAX

Fees = NO TAX

embraerjetpilot 09-01-2023 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by nene (Post 3689731)
"REAL" reason DC doesn't like "junk fees"

Fare = FED TAX

Fees = NO TAX


Interesting argument.... I hadn't thought of that one.

But in this argument, wouldn't they be more in favor of Jetblue than leaving spirit solo?

RemoveB4flght 09-01-2023 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by embraerjetpilot (Post 3690667)
Interesting argument.... I hadn't thought of that one.

But in this argument, wouldn't they be more in favor of Jetblue than leaving spirit solo?

Larger, stronger companies that can afford more pro business lobbyists are more of a threat than potential lost tax revenue, not to mention larger strong unions that historically have not be pro big government…


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