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Descendto450 05-18-2023 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by Sludgefund (Post 3638109)
OAK VB cerca 2008. Disaster

yeah it was!! It sounded so great until it wasn’t..

Flyby1206 05-18-2023 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3638140)
yeah it was!! It sounded so great until it wasn’t..

Im assuming it was a disaster because trips started and ended from a virtual base (OAK).

In this instance the virtual base pairings still originate/terminate in a real base with real reserve staffing to cover trips just like a JFK reserve covers a trip flown by a LAX pilot who calls FTG while on a layover in JFK 😂

DrSmacFum 05-18-2023 12:20 PM

I wish there was an option for commuters to list that they actually WANT to fly on reserve. I know many that don't get called as they sit in their crashpad and are upset about it, meanwhile I enjoy my time at home not getting those trips.

I liked the way my AA regional did it: A trip pops up and everyone in the bucket can say if they want it or not. Most senior pilot can say if they want the trip or not and it trickles down from there.

Flyby1206 05-18-2023 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by DrSmacFum (Post 3638156)
I wish there was an option for commuters to list that they actually WANT to fly on reserve. I know many that don't get called as they sit in their crashpad and are upset about it, meanwhile I enjoy my time at home not getting those trips.

I liked the way my AA regional did it: A trip pops up and everyone in the bucket can say if they want it or not. Most senior pilot can say if they want the trip or not and it trickles down from there.

How did regular short call assignments work when nobody bid for it? Most junior legal reserve gets assigned the trip? Or earliest legal reserve like it is here at JB?

DrSmacFum 05-18-2023 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3638161)
How did regular short call assignments work when nobody bid for it? Most junior legal reserve gets assigned the trip? Or earliest legal reserve like it is here at JB?

Most jr legal reserve automatically gets it. For whatever reason the most senior # gets you the earliest start time at JB which in a lot of cases makes you the most likely to get called first.

Seems backwards to me.

fly4fun14 05-18-2023 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by DrSmacFum (Post 3638156)
I wish there was an option for commuters to list that they actually WANT to fly on reserve. I know many that don't get called as they sit in their crashpad and are upset about it, meanwhile I enjoy my time at home not getting those trips.

I liked the way my AA regional did it: A trip pops up and everyone in the bucket can say if they want it or not. Most senior pilot can say if they want the trip or not and it trickles down from there.

I'm assuming you mean something beside the FLICA bidding you can do the night before the DRO?

Descendto450 05-19-2023 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by DrSmacFum (Post 3638156)
I wish there was an option for commuters to list that they actually WANT to fly on reserve. I know many that don't get called as they sit in their crashpad and are upset about it, meanwhile I enjoy my time at home not getting those trips.

I liked the way my AA regional did it: A trip pops up and everyone in the bucket can say if they want it or not. Most senior pilot can say if they want the trip or not and it trickles down from there.

This sounds a lot like the way our system works for those who choose to pref bid a trip..

Flyby1206 05-19-2023 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3638450)
This sounds a lot like the way our system works for those who choose to pref bid a trip..

Yes for LCR pref bidding next day trips is nice. It would be great if there was a generic “fly first/fly last” list for day of operations that would apply to both LCR and SCR. As long as a “fly first” guy is legal then he gets the trip.

Forward lav 05-19-2023 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3637871)
Joint company and ALPA pairing survey.

Go do it. The pairings are awful.

You would think the 6 month backlog of fatigue call reviews would be enough of a wake up call for the company but apparently they need us to spell it out for them.


This is the “profit sharing task force” of scheduling. I did it but it won’t change anything.

dontsurf 05-19-2023 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by DrSmacFum (Post 3638164)
Most jr legal reserve automatically gets it. For whatever reason the most senior # gets you the earliest start time at JB which in a lot of cases makes you the most likely to get called first.

Seems backwards to me.

I told them this when they were first negotiating the contract. they said, "well we have to do it one way or the other so we chose this way". I said they should have chosen the other way, and they should have us vote on it, but they didn't care.


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