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Old 05-29-2025 | 05:04 PM
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CEO of JB on CNBC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQYYDr77Ufw
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Old 05-29-2025 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
The debt is not nearly the obstacle some are touting it to be. JB owns most of their assets outright. If United wants into JFK in a significant way, this partnership will not stop at this move.
Not according to the financial statement they filed with the SEC.

Jetblue has $17B in total assets but $4B of that is either cash, short term investment or receivables. So really they have about $13B in "Assets" (planes, equipment, etc) They have $8B in long term debt (what we've been talking about) $4.1B in Current Liabilities and another $1.6B in Other Liabilities. $17B of total assets and around $13B of debt load, so they don't really "Own most of their assets outright".

The almost $4B of cash and short term investments is very nice, especially compared to Spirit and Frontier right now. But their retained earnings and shareholder equity is basically the cash and investments. Everything else is basically equal to the debt load, so no actual "paid off assets".

United is roughly in the same boat, just a rapidly improving trajectory is the only difference.
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Old 05-30-2025 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
United is roughly in the same boat, just a rapidly improving trajectory is the only difference.
Kirby very specifically mentioned improving United’s financial situation, especially cash-on
-hand, as a priority at yesterday’s conference. I’d think that until he’s done that, he won’t be taking on billions more in debt.
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Old 05-30-2025 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MergingTargets
Kirby very specifically mentioned improving United’s financial situation, especially cash-on
-hand, as a priority at yesterday’s conference. I’d think that until he’s done that, he won’t be taking on billions more in debt.
Taking on debt? The leveraged buyout will fix that!
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Old 05-30-2025 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CareerPivot
With multiple conversations going in multiple threads, figured it'd be better to consolidate into a new one. I'd be very interested to see what the financials are for UA to integrate into Paisley. I have to assume they're getting a better deal than what they are currently using, and it's free money for JB.

While it does seem like this is the first phase of that supposed 3 phase plan, I'm not sure JB wants to give up all their other partnerships in order to join Star Alliance in a theoretical phase 2.

United Airlines CEO SҺuts Down Talƙ of a JetBlue Merger


https://caranddriverenthusiast.com/u...oogle_vignette

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Old 05-30-2025 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AMC190

United Airlines CEO SҺuts Down Talƙ of a JetBlue Merger


https://caranddriverenthusiast.com/u...oogle_vignette
reluctance isn’t quite “shutting down” as the click bait title would suggest.

until a merger actually happens, none of these CEOs will say they want 1 with a specific airline anyway.
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Old 05-31-2025 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AMC190

United Airlines CEO SҺuts Down Talƙ of a JetBlue Merger


https://caranddriverenthusiast.com/u...oogle_vignette
CarandDriverEnthusiast.com?? Great source.

Although to be fair, I do get my "tuning my Miata" info from GunsandAmmo.com
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Old 05-31-2025 | 08:34 AM
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Given the feds interceded when JetBlue tried to merge with NK over concerns that such a merger would result in a monopolistic outcome it’s difficult to believe they would allow an actual JetBlue - United merger. Not impossible I guess (different administration) but seems pretty damn unlikely.
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Old 05-31-2025 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Given the feds interceded when JetBlue tried to merge with NK over concerns that such a merger would result in a monopolistic outcome it’s difficult to believe they would allow an actual JetBlue - United merger. Not impossible I guess (different administration) but seems pretty damn unlikely.
You realize there's a difference in philosophy in terms of mergers when dealing with a GOP DOJ/DOT and a Democrat one, right?
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Old 05-31-2025 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
You realize there's a difference in philosophy in terms of mergers when dealing with a GOP DOJ/DOT and a Democrat one, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhKbjhR2CtM

You can start listening at 16:45. Its pretty clear Kirby wants to maximize a relationship with Jetblue without an acquisition. His words are self-explanatory.

At 18:00 she asks "What are your thoughts on the budget airline model?". Very interesting response.
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