sandman2122

Not twelve, more like 38-39. He is a furloughed NWA guy.

jwes

Back to the original idea, I can't remember how many tests NASA has done on fatigue and the effects on the human body. Although; they never seem to get the FAA to impose new flight rules and duty rest... Now JBlue does one test with a few pilots and a doctor with their own definition of what fatigue is, and things my change to a 9 hour day? Give me a brake. I wonder what the actual tests showed? Maybe the pilots showed fatigue with less then 8 hours and they are trying all sorts of formulas to show otherwise....If you put enough money (Lobbying) behind anything, it will get past....LOOK OUT, 9hr, 10hr, 11hr....

Gman

Looks like you JetBlue Bashers got some needed ammo from the nation’s most trustworthy news source.
As always, the NY Times , CNN, Al-Jazera and other drive-by media outlets fail to tell the whole story.

Ever flown a coast to coast in about 6h, then went to the hotel trying to sleep for 8h- during daytime?
Then get up again and fly back.
I guarantee you that you are more tired on arrival at the east coast than when turning the airplane and flying
11 hours.
That’s why we looked into this. If the FAA screwed up the legalities – that’s their problem.
Let’s wait for some lawsuit after all our happy customers can now claim guinea pig status.
I am sure you guys will be pleased…

As far as the Game-boy playing ex-NWA guy is concerned, I wonder if he is returning to the cozy
rest requirements at NWA if recalled?

Happy 757Driver?

Sandman – who is the ugly babe?

jetGlue

Gman, are you ex-TWA?

bluechunks

Actually, we screwed it up pretty well without the FAA's "help."

Even with the exemption to operate domestic transcon turns under supplemental 3-pilot rules, our pilots still operated more than 8 hours in the seat (see FAR 121.507 for specifics.)

Blaming the media for our problems is pretty pathetic.

birdstrike

I don't blame JB for trying, but we as pilots need to be moving towards less duty not more. Sure the extended duty may look good for a particular flight, but if the airlines get the green light on this look out!! Red-eye and then turn and come back - very, very bad idea.

SWA Aviator

This is why you need a union! SWA min pay for a 3 day = 19.5 min pay for a 4 day 26.0. Rig per day 6.5 per day average in any trip. We don't need to go coast to coast to make a descent living. 8 hour flight days are killers and now you want to make it 9? Yes we have 2 leg 8 hour days. Our 3 days range between 19.5 and 26 and our 4 days range between 27 and 33 trips for pay.

touchngo

If you want to see the leading edge fatigue studies and performance results look at how NASA schedules the shuttle crews.

The government has the info, it's all about how much the government, influenced by big business is willing to spend. Risk management is the bottom line and we're the losers until something bad happens, and even then we're blamed as the cause.

apdriver69

Boys,
Race to the bottom!!! Good ole' SWA started this race years ago. Also who besides SWA wants a change to age 60???? JETBLUE!!!! ****!!!!