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jtrain609 03-28-2019 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2792118)
That's a fair analogy, and I guess there's a pattern in my life. I went to a state school, and was very happy there. I didn't compare myself to Harvard people, and I don't really compare myself to Delta people now.

Happiness comes from within.

"To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering"

-Nietzsche

Southerner 03-28-2019 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by jtrain609 (Post 2792241)
"To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering"

-Nietzsche

Oh yeah? We are going there? Every time the operation blows a circuit, I think of this Nietzsche quote:

"The total character of the world, however, is in all eternity chaos..."

GuppyPuppy 03-28-2019 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by aldonite7667 (Post 2791749)
The bottom half of the FO list is pretty junior. The top 30% is 9-17 yrs on property. You’ll probably get out there in 1 year but you will never upgrade out there. Ever....

A pilot with 15 years on property (the company is only 19 years old) can be a junior line-holder captain in LGB/LAX.

GP

Gordie H 03-28-2019 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by jtrain609 (Post 2792241)
"To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering"

-Nietzsche


Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2792251)

"The total character of the world, however, is in all eternity chaos..."

I'll see your Nietzsche and raise you Yogi Berra:

"If the world were perfect, it wouldn’t be."

aldonite7667 03-28-2019 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy (Post 2792254)
A pilot with 15 years on property (the company is only 19 years old) can be a junior line-holder captain in LGB/LAX.

GP

Yep, but there are a lot of senior FO’s in LGB. I’m here 9 yrs and would be 35% on the FO list there.

jtrain609 03-28-2019 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2792251)
Oh yeah? We are going there? Every time the operation blows a circuit, I think of this Nietzsche quote:

"The total character of the world, however, is in all eternity chaos..."

"The great epochs of our life come when we gain the courage to rechristen our evil as what is best in us."

disenchantMINT 03-28-2019 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2792118)
That's a fair analogy, and I guess there's a pattern in my life. I went to a state school, and was very happy there. I didn't compare myself to Harvard people, and I don't really compare myself to Delta people now.

Happiness comes from within.

Do the "Harvard people" do the same job and have the same responsibilities and bring the same value to their employer as you do?

The analogy worked until your post tried to stretch it. We aren't comparing a Fortune 500 CFO vs. an accountant. We are comparing full service narrow body pilots in the US vs. full service narrow body pilots in the US.

Happiness does indeed come from within. And pointing out that you're being taken advantage of by greedy management and calling out colleagues who enable them ≠ unhappiness.

Southerner 03-28-2019 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by disenchantMINT (Post 2792305)
Do the "Harvard people" do the same job and have the same responsibilities and bring the same value to their employer as you do?

The analogy worked until your post tried to stretch it. We aren't comparing a Fortune 500 CFO vs. an accountant. We are comparing full service narrow body pilots in the US vs. full service narrow body pilots in the US.

Happiness does indeed come from within. And pointing out that you're being taken advantage of by greedy management and calling out colleagues who enable them ≠ unhappiness.

A college student is a college student, not a CFO. When I was a student at a state school, I didn't compare myself to students at Harvard. You are the one twisting the analogy buddy.

As far as the other, don't you realize that ALL corporations are greedy? You act as if JetBlue is the only corporation in America that would take as much as it could get away with. Welcome to Capitalism in the U S A buddy.

PasserOGas 03-29-2019 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Southerner (Post 2792316)
A college student is a college student, not a CFO. When I was a student at a state school, I didn't compare myself to students at Harvard. You are the one twisting the analogy buddy.

As far as the other, don't you realize that ALL corporations are greedy? You act as if JetBlue is the only corporation in America that would take as much as it could get away with. Welcome to Capitalism in the U S A buddy.

I guess our only recourse is to lie down and take it then. Beg and scrape is the name of the game.

Southerner 03-29-2019 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2792442)
I guess our only recourse is to lie down and take it then. Beg and scrape is the name of the game.

I didn't say that. We have taken steps to improve. We have ALPA, we now have a CBA, etc. But my god you don't have to whine and moan about now downtrodden you are all the GD time.


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