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giggidy 04-22-2021 06:20 AM

I’m trying to make sure I’m ready to apply when the window opens up. I have all my docs uploaded and profile info filled out on the website. It looks like that’s all I can do for now, is that correct?

Also when you guys are saying “poolie” I’m assuming that is referencing someone who has already actually applied and is in the “pool” of applicants?

sigler 04-22-2021 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by giggidy (Post 3225178)
Also when you guys are saying “poolie” I’m assuming that is referencing someone who has already actually applied and is in the “pool” of applicants?

A “poolie” is usually someone who has already interviewed and gotten the CJO. They’re just waiting for a class date.

capt707 04-22-2021 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by BeatNavy (Post 3224890)
“When the pandemic hit our industry a year ago, we had 34 Pilots in our training pipeline that had not yet been released to OE. I am happy to share that those Pilots are returning to JBU in May and will be fully released to the operation by early summer.....We will also be hiring new Pilots starting in June....Final numbers will depend on how the supplemental bid is awarded, but we should be adding several hundred new Pilots to our ranks this year.”

Good news for the poolies...and other applicants.

Wait.... I thought we are going to furlough and need furlough protection?

BlueJetDork 04-22-2021 02:27 PM

Hope this is not theater for JetBlue’s arbitration!

Desdi 04-22-2021 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by BlueJetDork (Post 3225436)
Hope this is not theater for JetBlue’s arbitration!

Oh the one for when they bargained in bad faith offering furlough protection (when the govt under the new admin would have kept that from happening in perpetuity), and 2% (which traditionally would have been recouped in the next CBA signing bonus)?

Descendto450 04-23-2021 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by Desdi (Post 3225464)
Oh the one for when they bargained in bad faith offering furlough protection (when the govt under the new admin would have kept that from happening in perpetuity), and 2% (which traditionally would have been recouped in the next CBA signing bonus)?

ahh that wasn’t a negotiation that was just an offer. There is a big difference. It may be perceived as predatory but not “negotiated in good faith”. There was no bargaining. Negotiation implies that the negotiating committee actual was involved in a give and take scenario it was more of a take it or leave it from the company..

Desdi 04-23-2021 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3225578)
ahh that wasn’t a negotiation that was just an offer. There is a big difference. It may be perceived as predatory but not “negotiated in good faith”. There was no bargaining. Negotiation implies that the negotiating committee actual was involved in a give and take scenario it was more of a take it or leave it from the company..

Hence why it shouldn’t have even made it out for radification.

Descendto450 04-23-2021 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Desdi (Post 3225595)
Hence why it shouldn’t have even made it out for radification.

We will have to agree to disagree on that issue. I was proud to see the democratic process work and unlike LOA 12 where we didn’t even get a chance to vote on it.. It was an offer we rejected it now we get to go to arbitration, hopefully we will win maybe we won’t..

Bluedriver 04-23-2021 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Descendto450 (Post 3225648)
We will have to agree to disagree on that issue. I was proud to see the democratic process work and unlike LOA 12 where we didn’t even get a chance to vote on it.. It was an offer we rejected it now we get to go to arbitration, hopefully we will win maybe we won’t..

450, let me ask you a few simple questions. Outside of being released by the NMB at the end of section 6, can the company simply put out a vote to reduce the ADG to 4.0, and then simply implement it anyway if the pilots vote no?

Outside of being released by the NMB at the end of section 6, can the company simply put out a vote to reduce pay rates by 20%, and then simply just implement that pay cut anyway if the pilots vote it down?

After you answer those, please explain how this is any different???

The company is directly and explicitly violating the CBA if/when they codeshare between focus cities and/or between a focus city and ANY international destination within the range of the A321NEO.

They CANNOT simply make an offer, and then simply do whatever they please regardless of how the pilots vote.

Descendto450 04-23-2021 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3225735)
450, let me ask you a few simple questions. Outside of being released by the NMB at the end of section 6, can the company simply put out a vote to reduce the ADG to 4.0, and then simply implement it anyway if the pilots vote no?

Outside of being released by the NMB at the end of section 6, can the company simply put out a vote to reduce pay rates by 20%, and then simply just implement that pay cut anyway if the pilots vote it down?

After you answer those, please explain how this is any different???

The company is directly and explicitly violating the CBA if/when they codeshare between focus cities and/or between a focus city and ANY international destination within the range of the A321NEO.

They CANNOT simply make an offer, and then simply do whatever they please regardless of how the pilots vote.

Unfortunately, that’s exactly what they did and now we are fighting it as per the CBA. A negotiation it was not. A last ditch effort to try and gain something before the industry began to recover is what it was. To the company it was just business as usual. Yes they are violating the CBA and hopefully arbitration turns out favorable to us. They obviously think that the CAN just make an offer. We will find out in May/June what the outcome is. Until then it’s all speculation. It is no different then your above mentioned examples except that they were offering something (even if really wasn’t) in return. Uncle Joe called their bluff with the no furloughs if they take the cares act money or it might have turned out different.


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