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Bluedriver 04-06-2017 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearswinger (Post 2337360)
As of the class that just started on April 5th, 99 have started class since Jan 1, so unless they slow down it's on track for 300.
Summer slow down and attrition. At the end of the year our seniority list will NOT be 300 larger. Seniority list has never grown by the number they advertise in my time here.

And if you've been here more than a few years, the big number they advertise is meaningless when they only net 150-200. That is slow seniority progression.

Flyby1206 04-06-2017 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2337386)
Summer slow down and attrition. At the end of the year our seniority list will NOT be 300 larger. Seniority list has never grown by the number they advertise in my time here.

And if you've been here more than a few years, the big number they advertise is meaningless when they only net 150-200. That is slow seniority progression.
Agreed, we definitely are not growing by 300+/yr and haven't done that since I have been keeping track. Here's some data from Jan 2011 til now showing total pilots on the seniority list:

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http://i.imgur.com/3wdvhPR.png

Xtreme87 04-06-2017 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 2337479)
Agreed, we definitely are not growing by 300+/yr and haven't done that since I have been keeping track. Here's some data from Jan 2011 til now showing total pilots on the seniority list:

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http://i.imgur.com/3wdvhPR.png
Umm 1100 pilots in 5 years is pretty dang good lol. If we keep that up, we would match where a new hire at AA would be in 15 years, if not be better. Ofcourse growth can disappear at any minute, while retirements will still be there.

Bluedriver 04-06-2017 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87 (Post 2337489)
Umm 1100 pilots in 5 years is pretty dang good lol. If we keep that up, we would match where a new hire at AA would be in 15 years, if not be better. Ofcourse growth can disappear at any minute, while retirements will still be there.
Actually it's 1100 pilots in six years. Less than 200 per year.

rvr1800 04-06-2017 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2337611)
Actually it's 1100 pilots in six years. Less than 200 per year.
Look at Jan 13-Jan 17. Just under 1000 new pilots. That's 4 years. I've been here less than 4 years and have over 1000 guys under me. So about 250 a year while I've been here.

Bozo the pilot 04-06-2017 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2337303)
Actually it's worse than that. Of our hiring only 140/yr or so is for growth.
Yea I know, but I try to temper the numbers to avoid the appearance of negativity;)

Bozo the pilot 04-06-2017 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2337328)
We will NOT hire 250-300 per year. That is chief pilot/school house propaganda. I've been here almost 6 years, they have been promising big hiring numbers the whole time. I made a spreadsheet 6 years ago with a more conservative number than that and it keeps falling further and further behind the estimates from the spreadsheet.

I no longer trust them.
I dont think we can hit those net numbers any more, Im just trying to illustrate how long an upgrade will be for new prospects that are qualified for a legacy.
Its a no-brainer to avoid B6 if you want an upgrade in less than a 7 years.

nuball5 04-06-2017 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot (Post 2337721)
I dont think we can hit those net numbers any more, Im just trying to illustrate how long an upgrade will be for new prospects that are qualified for a legacy.
Its a no-brainer to avoid B6 if you want an upgrade in less than a 7 years.
There's one thing being qualified for a legacy and another to actually get that call. I know several like everyone else does with 10,000+ hours, plenty of TPIC, check airmen who can't get a call. At some point you have to make a move or risk being stuck at a regional.

hopp150 04-06-2017 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by captsurf (Post 2337292)
What was the drop for the April 5th class


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mkfmbos 04-07-2017 12:22 AM
I remember my first instructor during IOE at Eagle telling me: "stay out of the crew room, nothing positive happens in there." He was a genius.
I was hoping a few of the more well adjusted members on this forum can answer some questions I have about working conditions.
What do your trips look like? At mid range seniority, how many days off per month? How long for an A320 in BOS? How does RSV work? Are there any minimum hours of pay per day? Can someone (or a few people) post their schedule or direct me to where I can view some samples? Maybe a bidding packet. Thank you

Feel free to answer in the forum as I'm sure others have similar questions.


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