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ICON, I just reread the 'schedules' thread, and nowhere did I say anything about you and a union. Union did come up but not in my posts. I'm not fighting with anyone, life is way too short. Some people don't like to read opposing ideas or comments, but isn't that what these forums are about?

Now I did label you as a complainer, and that is factual, that is how that thread started. You started that thread with a complaint that you were apparently fishing for a bunch of 'misery love company' companionship.

I just try to live my life and especially my work attitude a positive one, because no matter what, no mater how perfect things are, there is ALWAYS something to complain about. If a person looks for it there is ALWAYS something wrong with something. When I fly with or in past lives flew with someone like that I felt like slitting my wrists after a couple-day pairing. A bad attitude is a miserable thing to have or live with or inflict on somone else.

Now please, I know that this implies that you are a negative pain to be with or around, but since this is an anonymous forum I have NO CLUE who you are or what you are like to fly with. You may be one of the really enjoyable people to fly with and save your complaining for this forum. I just don't know, but I can form an opinion from your posts here.

I never said that I don't respect your viewpoint or that is wasn't factual, but there are so many other much bigger fish to fry that I see this complaint as trivial. Again that is from my point of view.

Every suggestion for a fix to the late JFK schedules either showed a serious lack of caring [make LGB and FLL artificially late] or would cost money that right now we just don't have.

My only real complaint [yes I have them] about you is you tend to write posts that are pretty harsh and then when confronted with it claim that you were 'just joking' Sorry that is 'just BS'.

I find the overall mood and atmosphere on this entire forum to be dismal and negative. It's too bad that nobody can find something nice to say or comment on. Or when someone posts something positive or refutes a negative comment they are told to 'pull their head out of the sand' My head isn't buried in the sand, I just prefer to look through rose-colored glasses instead of sh*t-brown colored ones.

I for one think we have a great company! We have a GREAT bunch of pilots! We are all in different aspects of career growth. Sometimes we complain. Sometimes we gripe. That's o.k. It doesn't matter if it is true or not because it comes from one perspective. Many times a problem may never be fixed but just acknowledging that it exists may be all that is needed.

For the dismal side of the board - just understand that it is a vent which can be healthy. In our model there are not many ways to voice opinions.

At the end of the day we still laugh about it all.

Meworry,

I agree with in addressing the QOL issues. I also agree that going after a fat raise at this point in time will probably do more harm than good. I actually think that JetBlue Mgmt. will do the right thing in that area when the time is right. Now.... we need to work on crew services.

Stillflyn

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Now I did label you as a complainer, and that is factual, that is how that thread started. You started that thread with a complaint that you were apparently fishing for a bunch of 'misery love company' companionship.

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Anyone find it strange that every month JFK First Officer Schedules are late....due to IROPS, Asian Bird Flu, Mad Cow Disease, ETC..

I believe this was an observation. Dude, you have a tendency to label everyone on this board a complainer or a conspiracy theorist. I made one observation, never mentioned a conspiracy, or any anti-management sentiment yet this is the kind of post you are making through your rose colored glasses.

B6GUY
I expected this responce from you two especially. The comment about the 'conspiracy theorists' was to thwart the inevitable comments from the likes of you two about management expecting the labor side of the company to open their wallets without management doing the same. WTF

There are no saints on message boards. It's great that we get along , but if we don't...whatever. Plus someone wise once said:


I like to complain. It is so much fun because you listen. If no one listened then it would not be any fun. I also like the internet. This is a match made in heaven.

Later..................Now how about all those e-mails we keep getting.

I guess I don't understand why B6 and others are so worried about the "tone" of this message board.
I've trawled flightinfo and I find the same insecure people desperately trying to defend the honor of Jetblue.
If our operation is so head-and-tails above everyone elses then why should anyone worry about a few whiners on a message board?
I can read back through this board and find at least 20 very specific problems that will surely get bigger and bigger over time.
But our biggest problem prevents all of the other ones from being fixed.
Namely: arogant SOB's defending very lucrative turf.
If another pilot tells me to speak up or get involved or be proactive after two years of banging my head against a wall,
I'm going to put a dookie in his flight bag.
.....oh my!???....how unprofessional!!!.....how did she get past the interview process????
Because, after all, we're SO different from the rest of the airline world, right?
Keep telling yourselves that.

Brilliant!

Can you say "dookie" on this board? That is not very ladylike! I'm hiding my flightbag from you.

Sale at Walmart?
 

There must have been a sale at Walmart on the Sh*t-Colored glasses.

I really like this company, and enjoy working here. It gets under my skin when I read all the complaining and whining on this forum. So I oppose it with a more positive point of view.

Oh well I guess I need to go to walmart and buy some glasses, ..... Naw, not me, life is too short to go around being negative all the time.

ICON; you started that thread with an 'observation' but it was a complaint as well. And as for pulling quotes from other threads, be careful, you have some real winners out there in print that can be pulled out of context too.



Have a great day!!!

I couldn't agree more!

Hey B6 have you read the comments on the survey results? Funny, most of them mirror this board. I guess everyone is just whining and complaining. You better go oppose the survey results with more positiveness to quell everyone. The more you type the funnier this board becomes.

Survey comments
 

Actually my survey grading and comments make this board look like a Blue-Koolaid party. Nobody would connect my [usually positive] comments made here with what I wrote on the survey [almost entirely negative].

The reason for the inconsistancy?? Comments here are public, tend to grow and feed on each other and inflame the negativism. Constant feeding on each other's negativism will rapidly make us just another airline. The only thing we have going for us is our attitudes and the atmosphere we create for the other crewmembers and the customers.

I hope negative comments and bad grades on the survey go the people who can and maybe will do something about the problems.

So go ahead and slam me: I believe that the survey means [or used to mean] something.

Did anyone comment on the survey [or on the forum] how the questions have changed so that there is no real way to track year by year the true trends?? No way to track the employee's satifaction with their jobs that the survey supposedly tracks?? This is very disturbing to me. It makes the survey a fraud and a farce. If the questions were the same as the last few years, then the results would have been much much worse.

Is this a surprise that the questions changed with the new DBushy regiem [sp?] ?? This way he can change the questions each year and the survey will mean nothing at all.

There, everyone happy now?? I made some negative comments!!

2 Blue, I'm glad I provide some entertainment and comedy in your life:

[2-Blue]Quote: I like to complain. It is so much fun because you listen. If no one listened then it would not be any fun. I also like the internet. This is a match made in heaven.

What a way to live your life. Sad actually, you must be a lot of fun to be around.

B6Guy