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Originally Posted by Softpayman
(Post 2291037)
Yes he'll NEVER.....because things will always be the same. That's the airline business. Things start one way, and usually they're set in stone forever.
OR ...you can have a different view that we have a negotiating committee doing their best, who have listened to our polling data and have this high on a list of things that need correcting. At a legacy airline a pilot generally has the option to be senior on a narrow body and get a better QOL. For many at JB that option only exists if they stay in the right seat. Gup |
Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 2291045)
It's just the management at this company is using the SAME exact tactics as in my regional as far as negotiations go. Spend 5+ years in negotiations only to have to vote down a polished turd and then have no hope for another TA anytime soon. So if that's true, we're looking at 5 to 7 years of negotiations.
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 2291127)
This guy gets it. Softpayman is the frog in the pot and management is heating the water just a little at a time. He won't see what's actually happening until it's way too late.
The fact is each negotiation is it's own process, none will be identical to another. Both sides will use similar tactics as others have used before though. Saying 5-7 years is just a way to be inflammatory, it's a wild ass guess. I haven't heard union leadership say anything of the sort. |
Originally Posted by say again
(Post 2290154)
That's the motto for most companies. I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised by this.
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Originally Posted by atrdriver
(Post 2291153)
Most companies don't pretend otherwise. I'm pointing out the EMT's hypocrisy and cynicism, not expressing shock at the realities of a capitalist system.
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
(Post 2291136)
Stop. You're trying to tell me that management is using typical management tactics? Well that changes things! I didn't realize they'd do that!
The fact is each negotiation is it's own process, none will be identical to another. Both sides will use similar tactics as others have used before though. Saying 5-7 years is just a way to be inflammatory, it's a wild ass guess. I haven't heard union leadership say anything of the sort. |
http://aviationtribune.com/airlines/north-america/trans-state-airlines-announces-new-pilot-bonus-retention-program/ A new signing and retention bonus program will make Trans States Airlines pilots among the highest paid in the regional airline industry. In addition to having a competitive hourly pay scale ($36.35 per flight hour), new hire First Officers are now eligible for a $30,000 signing and retention bonus, to be paid in three increments over two years of service. Under an agreement brokered by the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA), Trans States First Officers already on property will receive $10,000 in retention bonuses, and another $10,000 in bonuses if the company reaches pilot hiring targets. Current Captains will also receive a retention bonus, as well as an additional bonus if hiring targets are met. Salary and bonuses alone for a first year, First Officer should reach at least $55,000. Total pay, per diem and all benefits can now reach $75,000 for a first year, First Officer, and $82,000 a year for a first year Captain. “The objective of this program is twofold—to offer a competitive compensation package that will attract top aviation talent to our airline, while also taking care of the pilots already flying for us,” explains Trans States Airlines Chief Operating Officer Fred Oxley. “With year one total compensation packages for First Officers and Captains topping $75,000 and $82,000 respectively, we believe this program does just that.” “We think this new bonus and retention program is a good start in recognizing the professionalism and dedication of Trans States pilots,” said Capt. Neil Butler, chairman of the Trans States arm of ALPA, “and we look forward to continuing to work with management to improve the overall compensation package of pay, benefits and work rules that lead the industry and attract new pilots.” |
Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 2291841)
So first year pay at a regional is now what our second year pay is here? Sweet.
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
(Post 2291841)
So first year pay at a regional is now what our second year pay is here? Sweet.
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