Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Kalitta Companies (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/kalitta-companies/)
-   -   Kalitta Air (K4) Information (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/kalitta-companies/115277-kalitta-air-k4-information.html)

jhugz 05-19-2019 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler (Post 2822876)
Why is someone not fighting this? Contractually I don't believe this is allowed. On the 74 we get told a layover day is just that and they won't give you a status (IE 4 hours pay for an R day) as it's a layover day.

Management rights, contractually we have nothing preventing them from turning a layover day into a R1 or R2.

goinaround 05-19-2019 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler (Post 2822931)
That I know but they should be built in RSV day's not have layover days changed. Do the others (Atlas, ATI etc) have guy's sitting at CVG on R1??

Yes they do.

Colt45 05-19-2019 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler (Post 2822931)
That I know but they should be built in RSV day's not have layover days changed. Do the others (Atlas, ATI etc) have guy's sitting at CVG on R1??

There’s much more transparency with scheduling and way better work rules at these places. Unfortunately, I don’t think things will improve overnight. Scheduling is just operating under our contract. Just know that the 747 and 767 operations are night and day. 747= happpy times, drinking beer in HKG. 767 = work, work, and a couple beers on 1/7 in Ohio.

WhaleWrangler 05-19-2019 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by jhugz (Post 2822947)
Management rights, contractually we have nothing preventing them from turning a layover day into a R1 or R2.


2 parts of the contract right here in which there should be waves to prevent this:


“Layover” may be designated on the Bid Lines in which no duty is scheduled and the Crewmember has no obligation to stand by for an assignment. A Layover Day may also include a Crewmember’s legal rest away from a Crewmember’s Base.



The Crewmember will receive a 4 hour credit towards his Bid Line guarantee or the actual hours flown, whichever is greater, only if Crew Scheduling actually assigns him a trip or reserve status (R3) or reserve status (R2) at the time of contact; otherwise he will remain in Layover Day status. Note which reserve status are mentioned.

jhugz 05-19-2019 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Colt45 (Post 2823086)
Just know that the 747 and 767 operations are night and day. 747= happpy times, drinking beer in HKG. 767 = work, work, and a couple beers on 1/7 in Ohio.

lol...the 76 is what you make of it...we have plenty of fun on the road

Colt45 05-20-2019 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by jhugz (Post 2823137)
lol...the 76 is what you make of it...we have plenty of fun on the road

Well the schedule as of late has kinda prevented that. You can’t even have a damn beer with dinner. Scheduling always has you on a damn R Status.

WmuGrad07 05-20-2019 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Colt45 (Post 2823187)
Well the schedule as of late has kinda prevented that. You can’t even have a damn beer with dinner. Scheduling always has you on a damn R Status.

$440 on year one pay not to drink a beer for a day while at work on one of the 16 days a month while spending 14 days at home drinking as many beers with the $440 you earned while not drinking beer isn't bad. It only gets better when you're a captain.

Blackhawk 05-20-2019 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by WmuGrad07 (Post 2823269)
$440 on year one pay not to drink a beer for a day while at work on one of the 16 days a month while spending 14 days at home drinking as many beers with the $440 you earned while not drinking beer isn't bad. It only gets better when you're a captain.

That assumes you are over guarantee. Below guarantee you’re sitting reserve for “free”.

sky jet 05-20-2019 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Colt45 (Post 2823086)
There’s much more transparency with scheduling and way better work rules at these places. Unfortunately, I don’t think things will improve overnight. Scheduling is just operating under our contract. Just know that the 747 and 767 operations are night and day. 747= happpy times, drinking beer in HKG. 767 = work, work, and a couple beers on 1/7 in Ohio.

Not sure who you are talking to but in the current life I, operate, deadhead halfway around the planet, operate and then deadhead back to where I left to do it again. If you are not senior enough for DHL the recent scheduling on the 74 isn't all that much fun either.

Locke 05-20-2019 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by sky jet (Post 2823313)
Not sure who you are talking to but in the current life I, operate, deadhead halfway around the planet, operate and then deadhead back to where I left to do it again. If you are not senior enough for DHL the recent scheduling on the 74 isn't all that much fun either.

I get the honor of sitting in Oscoda for a few days. Life ain’t all burritos and strippers my friend


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:38 PM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands