Originally Posted by 727C47

That speech is legendary , and was refreshing when I came to K4 after being furloughed from a company that abounded in corporate doublespeak .

Originally Posted by ghilis101

the leverage for 767 pay rates comes from the check airmen. Right now Kalitta check airmen make easily 250k a year on the 747 and the 747-400. They just cant pull that kind of money on the 76 with short night hub turns, so they will all boycott it at rates any less than current book. The pilots at k4 have great leverage right now.

Originally Posted by bubba74

From another forum:

Be forewarned potential newbies...anemic/no growth in the past 3-years (in fact we've shrunk and the potential to shrink further is real with the accelerating death of the classic), 10+ years of no upgrade potential as the hiring boom a few years back flooded the seniority list with young/middle-aged pilots while our attrition to the majors is predominately from the lower half of the seniority list and engineer upgrades keep flowing to the top of the FO-list, my first year here was horrible as you have no union protection during the 1-yr probation sentence (be prepared to be a whipping post for crew scheduling in garden spots like Crap-istan and with things escalating in the middle-east who knows where next), 35-days away from home on back-to-back assignments, hours of being crammed in economy between two paki's on Afghan Air on 5+ hour international commercial flights due to scheduling ineptitude and "cost savings", talks of a legitimate contract that isn't full of loopholes (like our current one) have been on-going ever since arriving on property with little indication that progress is being made (sounds like HQ went to the Del Smith School of Management), and you better be confident in your ability to handle a 747-400 sim as we've had a significant number of training failures in the past year (the majors would love to discuss the events of that with you at an interview). Connie's paychecks are deposited on time though. My .02-cents...

Originally Posted by satpak77

how many days straight on the road/TDY is "normal" for Kalitta dude each month

Originally Posted by SVTCobra

We are on the road 17 days straight which is our normal schedule. You then get 13 days off in a row for a 30 day month and 14 days off for a 31 day month. You can get a back to back schedule which would put you 30 days in a row being on the road, which really sucks!!

We are home based, so they buy you a ticket to work and home. If they need to commercial you from the states to somewhere international such as Hong Kong, you will only get a coach class ticket even if it's a 15 hour flight.

Health insurance is good. I pay only $80 month for my wife and I. After 5 years with the company you pay nothing.

Training wise they have started doing the AQP program for the transition guys from the Classic and will be the same for new hires, so be prepared for a lot of self study before you show up. You will be doing a PIC type ride in the left seat of course, so you need to be on your game.

If you can handle being on the road that long and having your schedule change by the minute it's not that bad of a gig. Some guys here like it and other guys here hate it. Take your time to decide if this is the right kind of lifestyle for you before you apply.