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Old 12-14-2017, 11:55 PM
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What's so great about Kalitta even after their new contract? They're only a little better than the scummiest scumbag outfits like ATI, Atlas, Amerijet, Miami Air, etc and still way behind legitimate career airlines like FedEx/UPS, legacies, most LCC's, etc.
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Old 12-15-2017, 03:49 AM
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Kalitta is an ACMI operation and not any different than any other ACMI operation, Atlas, Southern, Polar, you name it. Bid a line? Yeah, you can bid a line and even have it awarded. But that does not mean you will fly anything resembling the line. Scheduling is always a constant shuffle sort of like putting fingers in a dyke to stop the leakage. Need a plane? Oh yeah we will get you one. Oops. no crew? No problem, we'll just grab the nearest crew off their line and back fill. The cost of buying an extra ticket for the back fill. Hey, that won't cost much when buying bucket list economy seats. Pilots don't need all that rest anyway. Oh those days off you are guaranteed? Dream on! We'll just take a few, you are making extra pay aren't you? And that jet lag? Eh, you will get over it.
That is the philosophy of ACMI. You are a slave to marketing who have no concept of crew rests or contracts.
I flew like that for 6 years and when I finally reached 60 I had to leave, my blood pressure dropped 20 points. It does get to you sooner or later.
Just to let you know, this is NOT my post. I have never flown for K4 and no little about them. Someone has hijacked my avatar. Do not trust any post for 3point landing on a Kalitta thread
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Old 12-15-2017, 06:11 AM
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What's so great about Kalitta even after their new contract? They're only a little better than the scummiest scumbag outfits like ATI, Atlas, Amerijet, Miami Air, etc and still way behind legitimate career airlines like FedEx/UPS, legacies, most LCC's, etc.
Man it must be nice being you....
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:10 AM
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What's so great about Kalitta even after their new contract? They're only a little better than the scummiest scumbag outfits like ATI, Atlas, Amerijet, Miami Air, etc and still way behind legitimate career airlines like FedEx/UPS, legacies, most LCC's, etc.
I'll tell you one thing that is nicer, seeing the dreadful faces of pilots who work for a "legitimate" airline hoping to get on a flight home right before Christmas, as I board on their metal with a ticket in hand.
Have fun with the pax, gate agents, commuting, flight attendants, living your "Catch Me If You Can" fantasy that we all know is total bs.
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Old 12-15-2017, 09:40 AM
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I'll tell you one thing that is nicer, seeing the dreadful faces of pilots who work for a "legitimate" airline hoping to get on a flight home right before Christmas, as I board on their metal with a ticket in hand.
Have fun with the pax, gate agents, commuting, flight attendants, living your "Catch Me If You Can" fantasy that we all know is total bs.
I know you know this but..
what said was not ment to be complementary
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Old 12-15-2017, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarM1A View Post
What's so great about Kalitta even after their new contract? They're only a little better than the scummiest scumbag outfits like ATI, Atlas, Amerijet, Miami Air, etc and still way behind legitimate career airlines like FedEx/UPS, legacies, most LCC's, etc.
One thing that is great, for some people, is the home basing. You can live somewhere far away, and small, like Kalispell, MT, and not have to worry about commuting. Just show up at the Kalispell airport and ride to work hassle free. Some people really like the no jumpseating and no crashpad situation.
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Old 12-15-2017, 08:11 PM
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One thing that is great, for some people, is the home basing. You can live somewhere far away, and small, like Kalispell, MT, and not have to worry about commuting. Just show up at the Kalispell airport and ride to work hassle free. Some people really like the no jumpseating and no crashpad situation.
^^^THIS (although only saying "this" was too short...)
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Old 12-16-2017, 12:04 AM
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^^^THIS (although only saying "this" was too short...)
There’s so many good things about K4, that I view all the “legitimate” airlines to only be slightly better than a regional carrier, in terms of the actual job, crash pads, and commuting. Who the heck wants to deal with TSA, pax, gate agents, and FA’s every day? We are the best kept secret in aviation, I firmly believe it.
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Old 12-16-2017, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LoneStarM1A View Post
What's so great about Kalitta even after their new contract? They're only a little better than the scummiest scumbag outfits like ATI, Atlas, Amerijet, Miami Air, etc and still way behind legitimate career airlines like FedEx/UPS, legacies, most LCC's, etc.
As a K4 alumni, even before the contract the flying was sublime, as were the peeps, post contract it's just gotten significantly better , if you are a troll you are not a very good one, but some of us groove on the joys and challenges inherent in global longhaul, others prefer the pablum of ORD- DFW , wash, rinse, repeat,ad infinitum, to each their own. Cheers.
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Old 12-16-2017, 06:12 AM
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As a K4 alumni, even before the contract the flying was sublime, as were the peeps, post contract it's just gotten significantly better , if you are a troll you are not a very good one, but some of us groove on the joys and challenges inherent in global longhaul, others prefer the pablum of ORD- DFW , wash, rinse, repeat,ad infinitum, to each their own. Cheers.
Yet you chose to move on......
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