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Old 08-25-2008, 06:58 PM
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Landing a 757 is like a C-172. Pull the power at about 25 feet and flare at 15. 767. Flare at 30 feet and pull the power when the mains touch down. The 767 likes to pitch up when it lands, but other than that they are fairly easy to land. The CRJ is a great plane to land, and it does take some time to land something that is more than 10 feet off the ground, but if you can land one you can land them all with a little time in type.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
The CRJ is a great plane to land, and it does take some time to land something that is more than 10 feet off the ground, but if you can land one you can land them all with a little time in type.
I'm no Chuck Yager, but I've landed a few birds in my career.. A320, MD11, ATR, E120, Citation X, Citation V, and finally the venerable CRJ, and I can say without a doubt in my mind, the worse airplane to land (and fly an approach in) was the CRJ.... it came down like a lawn dart... the downward deckangle (due to a lack of slats mainly) made for a terrible transition from flight to flare.. I found the MD11, which isn't know for being an easy landing plane to even be easier to get a nice landing with.. but my favorite of all time was the A319/20 .. I don't think I ever had anything other than a great landing in that, even on day 1 of IOE..

As an aside, back when I was with ASA in 1999, we took delivery of these and they were new to most pilots.. We had a DAL pilot who flew the L1011 in the J/S and he about panicked when we were on the final approach and landing as he'd never been in an airplane that came in so nose down, and coming from the Tristar which came in very nose up, he thought we were going to crash.. it was funny, cause he reached for and grabbed the back of both seats to brace himself right before we flared at 10 or 15'..
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:16 AM
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You know I kinda envy you guys that were able to start your career in your 20's & 30's. Right now you're either a 15-20yr CA with a Legacy/Cargo or you may even be 10-15yr CA with a regional.....or even an 5-10yr FO w/AE; ; either way compared to some professional pilots and those of us who are aspiring to become professional pilots......you guys are golden.

Right now, I'm just hoping to get the oppurtunity to pursue the career. Can't do it w/o a 1st class medical certificate. I can tell you this, when I'm awarded my medical and start flight training, I plan on going all the way...CFII/MEII, instructing/time building...the whole nine yards. My plans are to try 135, then 121. At least that's the plan for right now.

JetJock16, I hope to one day be able to make a similiar post but under different circumstances....say @ my retirement from Airline/Company ABC somewhere between the ages of 65-68.

I hope and wish the best for all you & your families through these tough times.



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Old 09-13-2008, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe View Post
You know I kinda envy you guys that were able to start your career in your 20's & 30's. Right now you're either a 15-20yr CA with a Legacy/Cargo or you may even be 10-15yr CA with a regional.....or even an 5-10yr FO w/AE;
That depends on timing. There were quite a few of us who got our first jobs with commuters in our early 20s...and are now in our mid-30s. That put us smack in the middle of the 2001-2002 furloughs.

As a result, we are either 5-7 year FO with a Legacy/Cargo, a 5-7 year FO or CA with an LCC, a 5-7 year FO or CA with a regional...

...OR you could be one of those who went to places like Vanguard, Pro-Air, Eastwind, Southeast, or ATA during your furlough. In which cases you might be in your mid-thirties and find yourself a 1-5 year FO somewhere...

I'm 35 years old and in year 4 at my Corporate Flight Department right now... and I started my first commuter job at 22 yrs old. Ouch!
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:39 AM
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I can say without a doubt in my mind, the worst airplane to land (and fly an approach in) was the CRJ
Boy you're not kidding. That thing is a piece of Beaver crap (it's Canadian eh').

I found out after about a year in it that if you flew the approach at REF and weren't afraid to get the power out early, and then you floated down 3000 feet of runway, you could put it on the ground with the nosewheel in the air.

This technique also had an added bonus. For some reason it caused Captains to carve a donut-shaped hole in their seat covers. (People are so afraid of REF for some reason).

Nonetheless, I was glad to have the CRJ behind me. Second biggest piece of junk I ever flew. (Just edged out by the Dornier 328 turboprop)
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Old 09-13-2008, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Second biggest piece of junk I ever flew. (Just edged out by the Dornier 328 turboprop)
This is literally the ONLY time I've heard or read somebody not speak reverently about the Dork prop.
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Old 09-13-2008, 02:38 PM
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This is literally the ONLY time I've heard or read somebody not speak reverently about the Dork prop.
The place that I got my ratings in college started a small regional airline back in the late 80's equipped with Dornier 228s (Executive Express). I count those as among the ugliest of the airplanes that I have come across

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Old 09-13-2008, 03:30 PM
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228s are ugly, yes...but the 328 is (IMO) a good looking turboprop.
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Old 09-14-2008, 08:09 PM
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saw a 328 at RYY the other day...... not bad but it holds nothing to the old Herc.... I mean.. hell they been building the suckers in some model or another for over FIFTY years...
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
That depends on timing. There were quite a few of us who got our first jobs with commuters in our early 20s...and are now in our mid-30s. That put us smack in the middle of the 2001-2002 furloughs.

As a result, we are either 5-7 year FO with a Legacy/Cargo, a 5-7 year FO or CA with an LCC, a 5-7 year FO or CA with a regional...

...OR you could be one of those who went to places like Vanguard, Pro-Air, Eastwind, Southeast, or ATA during your furlough. In which cases you might be in your mid-thirties and find yourself a 1-5 year FO somewhere...

I'm 35 years old and in year 4 at my Corporate Flight Department right now... and I started my first commuter job at 22 yrs old. Ouch!

How true. Timing is everything.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is for those who have been with one company since starting their career...(either pre or post 9/11). How far up the seniority list is furloughing affecting you guys? For example, with regional carrier ABC, FO's with 3 yrs...or CA's with 2 yrs etc.....are they safe? That's what I'm asking.


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